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My Response to the LA Times Article:

Here's my email to Robin Abcarian of the LA Times in response to her article that was published today:

Robin -

Regarding your article about X17 suing Perez, you asked me why I’m suing Perez and not another blogger and that’s when I gave the answer that it’s because he’s the most blatant infringer and the most arrogant (I never said pigheaded, by the way). That was not my answer as to why I’m suing him. To give that quotation to Perez as the reason for our lawsuit against him is bad journalism in my opinion. And pitching the story in the second paragraph, as somehow less serious or valid because we take paparazzi images and not ‘news’ images, is confusing the issue. Copyright infringement is copyright infringement no matter what you, personally, see as the value of the material.

You also say we have “agreements” with many blogs, allowing them to post images with proper credit and a link back to our site. What we have in place is purely an agency-client relationship with PinkIsTheNewBog, PopSugar, and SocialiteLife to pay to license our images. It is no different than our agreement with UsMagazine.com or People.com other than that these blogs pay a reduced licensing fee in exchange for publishing our images with a link back to our site. There are no other sites currently participating in this deal other than the aforementioned three.

And why give the URL of Pere’z blog and not of ours and why link to Perez’s blog (in the online version of the article) and not to ours? Seems to be more proof of your one-sidedness in this story.

Why not also point out that the “fair use” defense would mean that anyone anywhere in any medium could publish our images without licensing them? That would mean that X17 would become a public service, and not-for-profit company? People, Us, In Touch, and ET, Access Hollywood and all our other clients wouldn’t need to pay for our images any more? Perez can’t claim newsworthiness when an image has never been published anywhere other than his own blog — when it hadn’t even made the news until he infringed it!

- Brandy Navarre

And this is just my personal note to all the Perez fans out there -- I'm not jealous of Perez. I wish he had been able to do what he does legally because I quite enjoy his site. The battle we're fighting is not a grade-school argument, it is a legal issue and our aim is to protect the images we work so hard at getting. Perez just had to pay for the images like everyone else and he chose not to do so, which has landed him where he is, squarely at the center of this lawsuit.



And his defamation of me personally the other day, is absolutely uncalled for and untrue. I am a mother of two and I work from 6 am - midnight every day; I don't have time to be an alcoholic.

P.S. - Robin, the first sentence of your article is incorrect:

"It's hard to know whom to sympathize with in this fight."

Should be -- "It's hard to know with whom to sympathize in this fight."

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COMMENTS

Perez rules, you guys are abusive morons.
Go to hell.

Posted by: Bettie


If it isn't meant to be seen as a grade school fight, then why wouldn't you simply shut up, continue on with your lawsuit, and in the end, appear to have taken the high road? Why all the sniping and whining? You are getting comments that sound childish because you're acting childish.

If you are simply doing this because "It's business", then you need to start acting like an adult. In other words: Shut up, quit throwing tantrums like a 4 year old, and stop using your "business" as a stage for your childish behaviour and personal drama. You're coming across as petty and immature, and not someone who should be taken seriously by others, let alone a court of law.

Posted by: Anonymous


It's one thing to like Perez, it's another to idolize him and think that he can do no wrong. His fans scare me. It's like they think it's ok for him to break the law and steal, because he's entertaining them. And as long as they're being entertained, anything goes. If the same thing happened to them, if someone was stealing from them, you can be sure they'd be the first ones at the lawyer's office.

If his fans are mature enough to say, yeah perez rocks and I love his site but he's wrong in this and should pay like everyone else, then cool. But none of them are saying that. I think they're all in middle school, to tell you the truth.

Posted by: glenda


You and Perez are self-serving swine. Stop airing your dirty laundry in public. Have some class.

http://crabbieshollywood.blogspot.com

Posted by: crabbie


If you're working from 6am until midnight every day, when do you have time to be a mother to two children? Or, do you PAY someone else to mother your two children ... with the money you make off of pictures of the celebrities you stalk? You're a vulture, Perez is a vulture, I don't think anyone should sympathize with either side.

Posted by: Any Mouse


Why not watermark the pictures like so many other photographers do?

That would be my suggesrtion to you!

Posted by: lia


You guys are assholes who make the worls a negative and unsafe place...

Posted by: Anonymous


Perez is not even funny or amusing.. socialitelife has much much better and funnier commentary. Perez is tres boring, sue his ass.

Posted by: perezisfat


I can understand how you feel. It would be REALLY frustrating for someone to steal pictures like this, especially the times he posts them even before YOU do.
I like his site, I like this site. It's a shame Perez can't just play fair.

Posted by: Claire


X17 rocks! iam with u guys


Perez SUCKS!!!


Love From ChILE

Posted by: K


stop whining. your 'job' is a joke and you contribute nothing to this society. how about getting more educated so you can have a real job?

Posted by: princetonian


Mr Navarre,
you emphasize business morals... but what about your own morals?

1. It's very likely you are INFORMED in ADVANCE by the camp Spears WHERE and WHEN she appears almost nude. Should we believe it's coincidence that hordes of paparazzi are at "any" gas station BEFORE she arrives there without panties? [As if (former) superstars would always get their gas on their own and therefore a gas station is the right place to expect her...] Should we believe it's coincidence the paparazzi were at the burlesque club BEFORE she arrived there for the first time - a place where celebs usually can't be expected each evening? To make sure to be ALWAYS THERE AT THE RIGHT TIME AND RIGHT PLACE you would have to employ 500 photogs or even more.

2. It's not the fact THAT a woman undresses but HOW she does so. Madonna, for example, did it in an artistical way which boosted women. There's a difference between dignified nude photography and what you promote: lowest level nudity. It conveys a message about a girl's and woman's value: "You're not worth more than that." Instead of critizing Spears' wrong role model behaviour you call on buying her cd and have ads from fan clubs. It seems your strategy is not only based on the concept how to get as many hits on your website as possible. By additionally praising dumb and undignified publicity stunts (= x17 smooching with Spears) you promote a slutty image of women.

3. Your concept works. Not only some not too bright fans launch your website but also people who are upset like me. I don't care much about Spears but about media who seem to fool the public.

3. You fail to moderate your forum and don't delete meaningless 1000 times repeated messages ("I love you, Britney") which would fill around 40 pages of a word document.

I HOPE L.A. TIMES READS THIS, TOO.

Posted by: business morals


oohh myyy NO ONE CARES!! you guys are creepy with your stalkerish ways anyways. get on with it. seriously NO ONE cares.

Posted by: Anonymous


perez is an ass

Posted by: Anonymous


I agree with Janet above. These commenters are all "X17 sucks" but then why the hell are they here!? Don't come here and then hate on the site owner, geez, grow up. Perez SUCKS @$$, no doubt about that. He doesn't do anything exciting - drawing cocaine and drips from people's noses is not even remotely funny or "cute" - it's plain stupid, not to mention stealing AND modifying images that don't even belong to him. X17 had been nice enough to let him do it for free for a while, and instead of being thankful and grateful, this gay ass got arrogant and violated their mutual agreement of crediting and linking back to X17. Perez deserves this lawsuit and should pay every cent. He's not fighting for bloggers. He's giving bloggers a bad name because there are a few of us out there who do take photos from sites like X17, but they credit where credit is due, which is a very simple thing to do. Perez didn't do that much - so he deserves every bit of this lawsuit.

Posted by: X17Fan


Wow, you should use some of your fortune and go back to grade school..."sentance"...idiots like you are the reason why SPELL CHECK was invented--maybe you should utilize it or have your kids do so.

Posted by: Anonymous


and if you were a not-for-profit you would probably stop going to such extremes to get the photograph. You would have to find another way to twist the laws and amendments to work in your favor. I'm not a fan of Perez or you (both are parasite an a bankrupt culture industry), but if he won this case you paparazzi would have to rethink your profession and that would be a great benefit to our society.

Posted by: BOB


Janet & Glenda (and designer)

I totally agree with both of you

I think that x17 deserves to win the lawsuit, but I do read perezes site. So I hope he just continues to blog afterwards...and pay for the pictures of course.

Posted by: Anonymous


Perez is a bag of sh*t.
X17, has a case here. He steals PICTURES from X17 their name plastered on the pictures. But what does he do? He erases them, I don't know about you but that act is already thought of, meaning premediated.

Both these jobs don't constitute to morality, but he needs to PAY!

So take his watermelon shaped head to court and sue the daily lights out of him, so he can go back to his orginal name...MARIO...


Posted by: Anonymous


Perez is stealing from X17. Period. I started reading Perez first and frankly liked him when he was a little more humble. Nowadays it just seems like all he does is hate on people he hates and give a free pass to those who kiss his ass. Hey that rhymes! He will lose this case.

Posted by: dde


X17 you have have your right~! Love your works and you teams! We Support you~~!!!

Love From Malaysia!

to Perez..i dun hate you but please have some respect...not heart feelings!

Posted by: wan


Brandy and her husband are fucking retards. Welcome to the world of the internet: the INFORMATION highway (not the "financial gain" highway). When will people get it through their heads that the internet is NOT "private" nor "owned" by anyone?? If you are stupid enough to think that you can keep your "art" (whether photographs, paintings, etc.) from being "stolen," then don't post on the internet; sell locally, stamp your original images, and stop crying your whining, sniveling, and crying about trying to use the internet for your bread and butter, and realize that you've just actually just been outsmarted by someone who figured out how to make a living by utilizing what you are stupid enough to post! And if advertisers want to pay bloggers for being a high-hit site (Perez is on his 24/7), then he got lucky! Please, just grow the fuck up and realize that this is a hobby, it's for fun, and you're out to establish a precedent that COULD RUIN IT FOR ALL BLOGGERS!!!

Posted by: Mizz Thang


lol you got pwned by the LA times. suck on it, drunkass.

Posted by: Kat


You can Sue Perez Hilton, but it will not change the fact that his site is so much better than yours! In all reality you are a perezhilton.com wanna be, and you will never make the cut!

Team Hilton all the way!!!

Posted by: Kathy Edwards


ALL I KNOW IS THAT I WOULD NEVER COME TO THIS SITE IF IT WASN'T FOR PEREZ. I'M SERIOUS...BACK WHEN YOU STARTED UP, IT WAS PEREZ'S RECOMMENDATION THAT GOT ME NTO YOUR THEN CRAPPY SITE. I AM TAKING SIES, AND NEVER COMING BACK HERE.

Posted by: Anonymous


Good for you to say that...People don't get the big pictures here: That Perez Hilton is STEALING the pics (many) in which he posts on his site from X17online, when in fact that they ONLY people that are allowed to do so are others in which they have an agreement with and therefore pay and give credit. Its not brain science here people, the bottom line is Perez steals, always has and always gets away with it. He is literally a PIGHEADED, stubborn jacka$4 that thinks he is invinsible when in reality, hes a shallow, nobody, trying to be a somebody!

If he wants the pictures than he should have to PAY like the others sites in which were mentioned above and do it the LEGAL way, cauase if anyone else did this they wouldn't get away with it and neither should fatty!

Posted by: Anonymous


TEAM X17!!!
I don't know what the legalities of his actions are, but he does use other sites' images. It's blatant and obvious.
I don't know why people like his site, with his stupid MS Paint comments on the images. As if that is supposed to make it his? Asshole.
Sue him and his big ass head. You could use that thing as a medicine ball, jeez.
FUCK PEREZ!!

Posted by: lisa


This was a good letter. I have wanted to write to Robin Abcarian for years. She is a lazy third rate journalist. Her fact checking is spotty, her grammar is appalling and apparently she feels that accurate quotes are optional.
I was rolling my eyes by about the second word- as soon I got to the finely crafted line "whom to sympathize with".
Thanks for calling her out on her sloppy journalism.

Posted by: Anonymous


This was a good letter. I have wanted to write to Robin Abcarian for years. She is a lazy third rate journalist. Her fact checking is spotty, her grammar is appalling and apparently she feels that accurate quotes are optional.
I was rolling my eyes by about the second word- as soon I got to the finely crafted line "whom to sympathize with".
Thanks for calling her out on her sloppy journalism.

Posted by: Anonymous


i feel x17 work real hard i come here last cuz i know ya have the most n best trainwrecks. so on that note ya work hard i hope perez hilton loses in court and his site is slow.

Posted by: briana paige


Nikki, I agree with you about the copyright issue. Nevertheless I think it must be questioned, too, how the photos are obtained... when talking about morals.

I'm not a Perez fan. In my opinion both websites work with similiar strategies to get the readers on their sites. I therefore neither appreciate Perez nor x17.

Posted by: business morals2


As per the article from the LA times Perez steals from other sites as well so X17 is not alone. He should just pay and get on with it. If not how about X17 steals from his site and see how he likes it.

And to all the people that claim to be so educated and below all this: Why do you come here?? Is your own life to boring?

Posted by: Anonymous


X17 is just kicking themselves in the ass for not water-marking their photos before posting them. This is the internet, photos, art, etc. gets taken... what did you really expect? Did you actually think that your photos would really be safe? That alone is a stupid assumption.

I'm with George Harper on this, I look forward to this law suit being dismissed.

Compare the two regarding posting of this story today:

X17 says a lot of personal stuff (including how much she works while having two kids, I agree with the other people who said that it's nothing to brag about, it just shows you're a piece of shit mom who is never around for your kids, poor things.)

Perez posted about the same L.A. Times story and when it came to his personal spin on the situation he eloquently stated his view, he didn't sound childish like the above mentioned.

X17 is obviously being run by an immature woman and her pussy whipped husband.

Posted by: Lorrie


I'm on X17 on this one. I don't think it's fair to post someone elses pics on your own web page. Get your own pics, Perez!

To X17: I really love your videos and pics, I check your page everyday :)! Keep up the good work.

Greeting from Finland. Totally love you guys!

xoxo

Posted by: Katja


Perez sucks, I hope they close!!

Posted by: Anonymous


Affter reading the LA Times article, I think you are being incredibly "pig headed" yourselves. I hope you spend a ton of moolah on this suit only to open the field up to anyone to deface, and use satirically, your photos.

Perez may be arrogant and sometimes downright awful, but that is no reason to sue.

Childish, childish.

Considering that you have a Mafia-like, menacing, and uneducated crew of freelancers from whom you buy photos, I find it laughable that you are taking the high moral ground.

Good luck. I for one will be celerbating when this suit is dismissed.

Posted by: George Harper


Fake fight. Boring publicity stunt.

Posted by: Anonymous


The owners of this site are rageing alcholics, so do not expect rational thoughts or actions on their part. I myself cannot wait untill someone runs over those nasty,perverted, stalker photographers.

Posted by: George Harper is my daddy


Go to hell and shut the fuck up. You are pathetic.

Posted by: Anonymous




Perez isn't even a good blogger. Pinkisthenewblog is waaaaay better. And oh wait! Pink actually pays for the pics they use! what a coincidence!

Posted by: Anonymous


yeah all perez does is steal pics and then uses a paint eraser to make cocaine smudges on peoples' faces. He SUUUUUCCCCCCKSSS! i HOPE U SUE HIM FOR ALL HE'S WORTH

Posted by: Anonymous


SHUT THE FUCK UP BITCH

you are just jealous

stop lying through your fucked up teeth.

Posted by: Anonymous


PEREZ ROCKS!

Posted by: KC


On the legal issue this one HAS to go to x17. They are the ones getting the photos. Perez, although I do like his site and read it all the time, takes photos he does not get him self and does not give credit to the person or people who actually take the photos. Then Perez writes comments on these photo that I'm suprised has not gotten him sued for slander, but what star wants to do that fight??

I'm sorry but as much as I enjoy reading Perez legally he is wrong and it is stealing plain and simple. How would you like someone comming and taking credit for your hard work?

News about someone famous is just as important and probally more news worthy then some war, although both are important I just rater read trash then war as it's depressing. Photos and stories on someone famous are no different then photos and people writing about the war. Just because you don't like the topic or the way it's gathered does not make it any less news.

Now the way they gather that info is not of my concern nor is it right or wrong to say if it should be allowed. That's another issue, but are not both outlets getting money from photos taken the same way, if they are the same photos? Does it really matter who takes the photo is taking the photo is wrong in the first place, morally some would say?

So in reality takign the photos in such compromising positions is wrong, although I love it and think they bring it on themselves. However taking the photos in the first place is still STEALING and WRONG. So Perez is wrong, if infact he is taking photos and that is what a court of law will decide.

But please anyone who thinks Perez is not wrong for stealing please call your mothers and have her hit you because, and I will say this really loud, YOU ARE NOT INTITLED TO TAKE THINGS THAT ARE NOT YOURS EVEN ON THE INTERNET UNLESS YOU ARE ALLOWED!

Posted by: Anonymous


"Pink actually pays for the pics they use! what a coincidence!"

that's not a coincidence. that's just trent avoiding a lawsuit.

his news is all like 4 days old but he does seem like a nicer than perez. perez is on top of his game. there is no denying that he is a great blogger. every day there are pages of information that you can't find on any other website.

love ya bitch.

Posted by: Anonymous


F*** you X17, your blog sucks! You shouldn't even bother to try. You'll never get a dime out of Perez Hilton!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous


What an alcoholic cunt. I only read this site because I found it through Perez. I will no longer be visiting this site and will stick with Perez and TMZ. I think all of us who found X17 via Perez should boycott this site till the lawsuit is over and Perez wins.

Posted by: Anonymous


The comments on this site amuse me. Actually, the comment sections on all of the blogs amuse me. The majority of people who visit these sites and look at these pictures are kids and the comments amusingly reflect that. I am positive that there is a good social experiment lurking within these blog comment sections but I can't exactly figure out a thesis.

X17Online I sincerely wish you all the best in winning your lawsuit against any and all copyright infringers.

Posted by: Janet


get a life and quit whining. you sound so elementary...you know like a spoiled brat. if you dont want your pics stolen, then dont post them for the world to see. BTW, perez is cool and so is this site, just let it go. dont hate.

Posted by: kristee


If you are going to correct the writer, you should proof read your letter. "Seems to be more proof of your one sidedness is this story." Shouldn't it say "in this story" ? And when you wrote the name Pinkisthenewblog, you wrote bog. Seriously, if you are going to write a letter to a writer, you should proof read! As a mother of three, I would not brag about working that many hours. All it says is that someone else is raising your children.

On that note, I read both Perez's site and yours. I love them both. I think this suit will be ground breaking in whatever outcome it has.

Posted by: Patti


As a graphic artist and web designer, I agree with X17's stance. I've had so much work stolen I sometime wonder if there is even a point to trying to keep my business going. Just a couple of weeks ago, I saw one of my original designs on a website with "Designed by XYZ" on it. Needless to say, "XYZ" is not me. A look at the page source showed "XYZ Design" didn't even trouble to take my name out of some of the code comments.

Point is, whether you're a photographer, artist, designer, singer, writer, or whatever, you have a right to expect to be credited for your work, at the very least. It doesn't take that much effort to write up a brief letter asking permission to to use, or pay a small fee for the privilege.

Those of you who question this should put it into a different perspective: Would you object to somebody walking up to you and taking yur paycheck out of your hand after you worked all week? If so, why? Just because you did the work is no reason that person shouldn't enjoy the benefits of it. After all, it's only fair use.

Posted by: Designer


You notice all the people talking trash are "Anonymous"? Must be Perez spouting off at the mouth like always.

Seriously i hope Perez has to pay up or his site gets closed down. He's so Yesterday.

What Perez is doing is totally wrong and he should be punished.

Posted by: Gossip Girls


I think that you guys are forgetting that you are making money off the backs of celebrities. If they're not concerned about Perez using photos of them, why should you be? It's THEM in the photos. I like Perez's blog, I like yours, and I read both but I think you need to see the bigger picture here. The watermark idea is a good one. The world would be a much better place if everyone could step back and take a look at how negative you're both acting. Hopefully you can resolve this thing peacefully and by taking the high road.

Posted by: Anonymous


Your video footage of photographers aggressively shoving cameras in people's faces and stalking 'celebrities' is shameless and a complete invasion of privacy. That these photos exist at all is a sign of a corrosive and frighting culture. Perez is a parasite, but x17 breeds parasites like him.

Posted by: Anonymous


perez is going up to the edit tab on the tool bar, then going to select all, then pressing copy...pasting it into mic word or soemthing like that...THEN copying it from there and posting it on his blog...that's how he's still getting your guys pictures...

Posted by: team x17


I agree that you should tag or "watermark" your pictures before even posting them. Would that not give you credit? Tons of sites already do that and you've had plenty of time to develop a way to make it so that your pictures are credited back to your site. I don't think its a childish lawsuit because copyright infringement is illegal, but you were negligent by not marking your pictures as X17 property. And even thought I love these sites, you are all vultures.

Posted by: Leslie


You'll never win, take it from a trademark/patent attorney. Do the research you will see some case law on this in NJ.

Posted by: Anonymous


"No right click, but he still get's my pics" (paraphrasing you obviously or do I need to cite you as the reference on your own site?)

Anyway... it's called VIEW PAGE SOURCE... and then look for the following: http://x17online.com/featured/images/6.jpg

Are you really that dumb or do you just play dumb to get the guys?

Do the world a favor and take up a new line of work... I'm thinking you would make a great pin setter at the local bowling alley.

Posted by: Anonymous


How about everyone just get a real job instead of living off the scrabs of the society?

Posted by: Anonymous


"No right click, but he still get's my pics" (paraphrasing you obviously or do I need to cite you as the reference on your own site?)

Anyway... it's called VIEW PAGE SOURCE... and then look for the following: http://x17online.com/featured/images/6.jpg

Are you really that dumb or do you just play dumb to get the guys?

Do the world a favor and take up a new line of work... I'm thinking you would make a great pin setter at the local bowling alley.

Posted by: Anonymous


"No right click, but he still get's my pics" (paraphrasing you obviously or do I need to cite you as the reference on your own site?)

Anyway... it's called VIEW PAGE SOURCE... and then look for the following: http://x17online.com/featured/images/6.jpg
________________________________

Fuck view page source, that's work. Doesn't anyone know you can just drag and drop images right onto your desktop or into any folder? Try it.

Lol. Amateurs.

Posted by: Solaera


Whatever, i hope X17 shuts down perez, because I hate his fat ass. Oh, mario, you need to go back to strip on your gay websites, it's over for you now. Trent was always better anyway.

Posted by: Anonymous


I agree!! Stealing is stealing at the end of the day. Perez should not take what is not his. Perez never has the latest pictures.

Posted by: Stacey


Idk this is kinda weird because I found this site through perezhilton.com. to be honest I am rooting for Perez because I don't like buying PEOPLE or US just for the pics. If X17 wins what would that mean for my fave blogs?
I can get the story and the pics on perez or some other blog site for free... i don't want to pay. this just seems wrong!

Posted by: gossip and celeb pix fan


I'm shocked that so many of Perez's fans are coming here and bringing up X17's photographing methods. That's not the issue at all. The lawsuit is regarding Perez and his continued and blatant disrespect by stealing the pictures and posting them on his own website. How X17 obtains the photos is not only completely legal, but - to stay on the point - irrelevant. It's not a part of the lawsuit, and no one is going to care inside the court room where the pictures came from. They could be taken inside Britney Spears' bathroom and Perez would still be held responsible for stealing the pictures. Britney Spears would have to take it up with the photographer and X17 if she felt the pictures were taken on private property that she owned, but it would have no bearing on the case with Perez. Not to mention - X17 doesn't even employ any of the photographers. Any pictures that the paparazzi take are solely the photographers responsibility. X17 cannot be sued - the photographer can.

Photographers take pictures, X17 buys the copyrights to them (which is how the paparazzi make their money) and then, legally, X17 owns them. It's not rocket science.

X17, is without a doubt, going to win this lawsuit, and I hope Perez learns his lesson. Anyone who is defending Perez isn't using any defense from a legal standpoint, and it's a joke. Quit whining about your precious blogger being sued - he brought it upon himself.

Posted by: Nikki


X17 you have have your right~! Love your works and you teams! We Support you~~!!!

Love From Malaysia!

to Perez..i dun hate you but please have some respect...no heart feelings!

Posted by: wan


eww. nobody wants to think about him stripping....

Posted by: Anonymous


it's quite pathetic the way you've tried to model this site on perez. he used to credit x17 and now he's stopped obviously for a reason.
this lawsuit is such a publicity stunt and has made me lose a lot of respect.
you take photos of celebrities against their will, hounding and stalking them... and you have the audacity to complain when your pictures are used by somebody else

Posted by: Anonymous


it's quite pathetic the way you've tried to model this site on perez. he used to credit x17 and now he's stopped obviously for a reason.
this lawsuit is such a publicity stunt and has made me lose a lot of respect.
you take photos of celebrities against their will, hounding and stalking them... and you have the audacity to complain when your pictures are used by somebody else

Posted by: mary Wong


Um, hello?! The public go to yours and Perez' sites for the celeb gossip - not to here you whinge about who stole what and who is arrogant or whatever!! So make with the gossip and leave your personal lives out of it. We don't care!!

Posted by: Anonymous


You guys at X17 are a bunch of nitpicking assholes. I have really had enough. I am sticking to Perez's site from now on.

Posted by: xxx


Brandy and her husband are fucking retards. Welcome to the world of the internet: the INFORMATION highway (not the "financial gain" highway). When will people get it through their heads that the internet is NOT "private" nor "owned" by anyone?? If you are stupid enough to think that you can keep your "art" (whether photographs, paintings, etc.) from being "stolen," then don't post on the internet; sell locally, stamp your original images, and stop crying your whining, sniveling, and crying about trying to use the internet for your bread and butter. Just realize that you've actually been outsmarted by someone who figured out how to make a living by utilizing what you are stupid enough to post! And if advertisers want to pay bloggers for being a high-hit site (Perez is on his 24/7), then just realize he got lucky! Please, just grow the fuck up and realize that this is a hobby, it's for fun, and you're out to establish a precedent that COULD RUIN IT FOR ALL BLOGGERS!!!

Posted by: Mizz Thang


NOT GRADE SCHOOL?! bullshit.. you just want publicity! Look at how you treat celebs! you would probably shoot someone to get a shot of a celeb if you could. I do belive that you are an arrogant asshole. Maybe you should have thought twice before you started this website and hired no good sex offenders to hurt people just to get pictures

Posted by: Anonymous


I totally agree that X17 isn't contributing anything to society by stalking celebrities for pictures. But think about this - how many starving African kids are you and I saving by sitting here reading celebrity blogs all day? Not many, by my count. And you know what? I, for one, am cool with that - let Brad and Angie handle that. If YOU'RE not cool with it, get off your computer and go join the Peace Corps.

What I'm also not cool with is Perez, who is an absolute thief, a biased hypocrite and sensationalist, a sell-out, and a shameless outer of gay people to boot. His site bores me with his endless stream of self-important pictures of people dumb enough to love him, and do I even have to mention the dopey musical acts he's always promoting and the pictures of men he thinks is "hot"? The only reason I even tune into his site is because he's one of the only bloggers who constantly updates.

When he first changed his tune and went from ridiculing Paris Hilton to practically licking her ass, I was one of the first to email him personally and tell him that he had sold out. The email he sent back to me was rude and arrogrant and yes, very pig-headed. Kinda like the way Paris and Lindsay act in public, as if their shit doesn't stink.

Having worked in the publishing field, I can tell all you out there who say this is a 3rd grade fight that it isn't. It is a legal matter and Perez will not win. How would you feel if you produced something - whatever it is - and someone else came along and either stole it and used it for their own financial gain or claimed credit for it? You might feel like suing their fat, faggoty, blockheaded ass, that's how.

So, I think you all should edumacate yourselves on some legal matters before you make dopey comments like "fake fight". Those who make those comments just show how stupid and uninformed you are and will most likely end up working as an X-17 stalker because you're too dumb to go to college and earn a real living. Do your research first!

Posted by: Anonymous


Good for you to say that...People don't get the big pictures here: That Perez Hilton is STEALING the pics (many) in which he posts on his site from X17online, when in fact that they ONLY people that are allowed to do so are others in which they have an agreement with and therefore pay and give credit. Its not brain science here people, the bottom line is Perez steals, always has and always gets away with it. He is literally a PIGHEADED, stubborn jacka$4 that thinks he is invinsible when in reality, hes a shallow, nobody, trying to be a somebody!

If he wants the pictures than he should have to PAY like the others sites in which were mentioned above and do it the LEGAL way, cauase if anyone else did this they wouldn't get away with it and neither should fatty!

Posted by: W


Good for you to say that...People don't get the big pictures here: That Perez Hilton is STEALING the pics (many) in which he posts on his site from X17online, when in fact that they ONLY people that are allowed to do so are others in which they have an agreement with and therefore pay and give credit. Its not brain science here people, the bottom line is Perez steals, always has and always gets away with it. He is literally a PIGHEADED, stubborn jacka$4 that thinks he is invinsible when in reality, hes a shallow, nobody, trying to be a somebody!

If he wants the pictures than he should have to PAY like the others sites in which were mentioned above and do it the LEGAL way, cauase if anyone else did this they wouldn't get away with it and neither should fatty!

Posted by: W


I just want to see the pics. Like I honestly care where they come from?! At the end of the day, I'll go elsewhere if I have to.

Posted by: Anonymous


Team Perez!

Posted by: Anonymous


After reading comments on here, I can kind of see where the two opposites meet, whilst I hate that faggoty ass prick Perez, I must say, your lawsuit is going to ruin it for all bloggers, you'll get less visitor's and since more people tune online to look at celeb pics then buy magazine's, Im pretty sure, some people will stop buying that also (just to teach you a lesson). I think this is best settled out of court, and if US weekly turned down your $15,000 dollar offer, thats makes them even more stupid, because Perez usually scribbles all over his picures, which makes it bad quality anyway. I dont visit perez's site, I dont intend to, his an offput, completely to the morale society.

Posted by: Anonymous


Perez needs to pay! Shut him down and make an example of him. Let's kill his kind and string them up in the town square and let the animals feed off the fat on his back.

Posted by: Perez's Fired Stylist


X17Online I sincerely wish you all the best in winning your lawsuit against any and all copyright infringers.

Posted by: Sunner


You just WISH you had a view count on your web site like it's on PerezHilton. Most of your comments to the pix suck or are simply incorrect (Shakira/Paulina Rubio are not the same person!) and your paparazzi videos are creepily stalkerish. Your act is one of pure desperation! Shame on you, x17!

Posted by: HedyLamarr


Btw Mrs Navarre, you spelt sentence wrong. ^-^

Posted by: Anonymous


TEAM PEREZ ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!! How can you talk about morals when one of your photogs is a sex offender!!! NO WONDER WE GET SO MANY PUSSY SHOTS. DISGUSTING!!! I only started coming here because of Perez anyhow, he recommended your site when it first started. I've been getting sick of your site for some time now (kissing Brit's ass even though she still looks like trailer trash, talking about NOTHING but Brit, Paris and Lohan, posting broing videos of people walking to cars, and so on), but this is the final straw. X17 will no longer be part of my daily gossip routine. Effective immediately after I post this comment. FUCK YOU X17!!! I HOPE ONE OF THESE CELEBS SUES YOUR FUCKING ASSES FOR TAKING PICTURES OF THEIR VAGINAS.

Posted by: i hate x17


i like to look at this blog. the perez hilton site i have only looked at once or twice. i think he has a site that only people with penis envy gravitate to. that includes perez himself included.

Posted by: butch


Um, she did mention your site. Only way I found your whiney ass.

Posted by: Anonymous


You guys suck, x17, seriously. Okay maybe your numbers will spike a little after this spat with Perez, but don't think it is anything long term. You guys ate pathtic and this site is pathetic. Just be careful you aren't screwing yourself over completely with this lawsuit, it can backfire if he wins! Who is gonna pay at all then? I really hope he does. You guys are nothing but a bunch of thugs and have brought the whole papparazzi thing to a new low. Snapping pictures of girls vaginas when coming out of cars is ridiculous. It's ridiculously low. It irks me that a bunch of thugs like you are trying to make some sort of moral statement by doing this. You guys literally hire sex offenders to upskirt shots of female celebrities coming out of cars. Perez may be an ase or immature now and then, but you guys are sleazy, disgusting, scumbags.

I am one of many on here who has only ever came here because of Perez in the first place anyhow, and I am standing by him on this one. Bye bye X17! Not coming back here again.

Posted by: Adios


OMG! this site is so pathetic. Seriously this site is absolute sh*t. I cant believe no body has closed it down. First of all the layout looks cheap ... whats wrong, dont you have enough money from all the pussy shots to pay for maintenance of this f*cked up site?

It's soooooooooo cheap.... you guys seriously need to have a cry, and while you're at it slit ur wrists, cut off your head and feed it to the dogs.

I still cant get over how shitty this "site" is. No wonder you resort to suing Perez. You're all a bunch of jealous cunts. Get a life, get a real job and stop living off the celebrities. At least perez seriously gets invited to actual celebrity events.YOU KNOW WHY!!!! COS HE'S POPULAR. WAY MORE POPULAR THAN YOU FAGGOTS WILL EVER BE!

I HATE THIS SITE AND THIS IS MY FIRST TIME ON IT. LOL .... THIS SITE IS SO CHEAP.. EXACTLY THE SAME LAYOUT WITH THE FIVE PAGES AT THE BOTTOM ... YOU MOTHERFUCKERS GET SOME ORIGINAL IDEAS.

TEAM PEREZ ALL THE WAY.

THIS SITE AND ITS OWNERS CAN ALL GRAB A SPOON AND EAT MY FUCKEN ASS.

Posted by: I HATE X17 ... DIE BITCHES DIE!


u suck!!!and about "changing" the first sentence of the latimes article: both ways are actually gramatically correct.

Posted by: Anonymous


I'm a Perez Hilton reader (note, I said reader, not fan). I do think he should pay for his images, especially since his site is a profit making business. If his blog was just a hobby, and he weren't getting any money, then I might argue that, okay, maybe he could use the images without paying. But, he's really no different than US weekly or People, and, so, he really should pay for them.

Posted by: Anonymous


Go x17!
You'll obviously win this lawsuit, as he is obviously abusing your photos.
Your site is much mroe enjoyable, as I check it every day, and Perez - maybe once a week, if not less.

Keep fighting.

Posted by: Kyle


I enjoy Peres' site more than x17online.......

and I don't get why you guys wanna sue such a nice guy.....as you say yourself - his site is the bomb! and you should just leave him alone.....
so he borrows some pics. from you - but come one ....he is a blogger. and can't help that his site is SOOOO popular.

Just a question: would you have sued him if only 100 people read his blog everyday? Think not!

so in all x17 is just a very smallheaded jealous idiot - that doesn't have anything else to do.....!!!! please leave peres alone....


ps. - sometimes you post some great videos - but honestly if i would have to choose - PINK PEREZ would definitly be the one I COULDN*T live without....
x17online is just something you log on to after having read PEREZ...you know when you are in the mood of some more gossip - but gossip you don't really care about!!!


LEAVE PEREZ ALONE!!!!

Posted by: nanna, SWEDEN


Go x17!
I support you all the way!
Perez is a child with low-self esteem who chooses to bad mouth others instead of fixing his own deep problems.

Fight on!

Posted by: Kyle


Legally, X17 should win the case, since other (ET, People) companies pay good money for the pics.. why would Perez get them for free and make money of it?

Posted by: Laura2


Perez DOES rule. Brandy, you're an alcoholic, and you can barely come up with a proper English sentence. You're childish, and wasting your time, and money.

Posted by: Anonymous


I agree, this site is lame. Good luck with your lawsuit against Perez. I don't see what he is doing wrong, you guys are the ones who stalk the celebrities! It is pathetic to see how much money you make off of a fucking picture. At least Perez has some origionality on his web page.

Posted by: Anonymous


I hope you guys win, you have every right to win, I hope ugly perez is forced to shut down his site. TEAMX17

Posted by: Maury


Like I read earlier, the only reason i know about this web page is because of Perez Hilton.

Your we page is ok, but, its boring and it lacks. Photos can only do so much for your web page because it has no juice or intensity or comedy. it lacks!

GO perez!!

Posted by: Nora Salas


I also found this site thru Perez....however that was because he USED to post where the pics were from...which he doen't do anymore....I think that is one of the major points here.

Posted by: Anonymous


Brandy -- One reason bloggers may not enter into licensing agreements with you is that you are impossible to reach. The only address on your site is "to advertise" here, and any mail to that address comes back as a wrong address. Suggestion: if you want blogs to pay you, give them a way to contact you.

Posted by: Anonymous


did you ever think that one of YOUR OWN PHOTOGRAPHERS has a deal with perez!??!?!? HELLOOOO?! WAKE UP!!! he gets the photos before you even post them? you should be looking for bad links in your own chain first - then address perez. but sniff out your own rat first. DUH!!!! if he's getting it from one of your photogs whom he has a deal with, then is he still stealing from "you"? ......

Posted by: jc


Brandy, you and X17 rule. Get Perez! I completly agree with you and your case against Perez. Continue the great work you do. I really enjoy your site...and comments.

Posted by: Pinkie


I think that your lawsuit is bogus. Half of the time Perez has similar pictures on his website before you even put them up. He has said many times, that paparazzi personally send him some of their photos. Seeing as how there are twenty of ya'll surrounding a celebrity at one time you are pretty likely to get similar photos. Plus, everything that Perez writes is out of humor and nothing more. You write mean things about the pictures of the celebrities that you post, trying to start mean rumors. The lawsuit is completely ludacris.

Posted by: Anonymous


Why does Perez think he is above all and not pay for using the images he uses? Other blogs have to why not he? His fans are creepy people who think he is the greatest, it's sad. The guys seems like a creep and never gives credit to people who deserve it. I hope the settlement goes through and he is out 7 million dollars and the site closes down. It's trash anyway, he gets his kicks outing people and making fun of them yet he does nothing productive in this world.

Good luck x17! You have my support!

Posted by: Someone who can see the truth


you are jealous. and thats the bottom line. When someone is sucessful, everyone goes after them, and that includes you. You are doing this out of spite. and if you have so much work, and have a baby, you are stupid to start a frivolous lawsuit with no basis. lets see how busy you are now.

Posted by: Anonymous


You should not be taking photos as aggressively as you do of celebrities anyway You are making money the wrong way and you will not win this lawsuit srictly based on the business that you are running. I can't imagine what it is like to live in such a negative world when there is so much positive out there that you could be tapping into. I feel very sorry for you.

Posted by: Anonymous


I hope Brandy and any X17 team member reading this, pays absolutely NO attention to the Perez fan's, they have literaaly just flocked from his faggoty site after hHE posted the LA times article also. Also I have to write this, I am shocked at the American media, whilst theres SO SO SO much more important news in the world, Perez is able to get a 2 page online article regarding this issue WHICH HE CREATED!! All he has to do is but the rights and link, thats all. If only X17 done this with fansites aswell, they would have a much more profitable business, instead of targeting and destroying all the time. The could set a deal: Do not post the images until they are released on the newsstands, but with all this going on, i feel X17 are hurting their website ratings, I mean I will still visit, but seriously, I want you to sue perez, but no sink to his level with this unnecessary post. BTW I don't think you'll lose the case, but I also don't see you recieving the whole 7 mill, the fcat that pere turned to teh LA times, shows how scared he is of losing it all, and that brings gladness to my heart!

Posted by: Anonymous


The only reason I know about X17online.com is because of Perez

Posted by: Anonymous


u guys are perfect for each other...scum vs. scum...let's hope you wipe each other out...the planet will be a much better place...

Posted by: Anonymous


You just WISH you had a view count on your web site like it's on PerezHilton. Most of your comments to the pix suck or are simply incorrect (Shakira/Paulina Rubio are not the same person!) and your paparazzi videos are creepily stalkerish. Your act is one of pure desperation! Shame on you, x17!

Posted by: HedyLamarr


You should not be taking photos so aggressively and invading the lives of celebrities anyway. You are profiting off of something that is so incredibly wrong, especially as a "mother of two." It would be hard for anyone in this world to believe that living this lifestyle did not come with some kind of addiction as well, esecially if you are working from "6 am to midnight." You will not win this case strictly based on the kind of business you are running... you are violently going after celebrities who are trying to live normal lives and it looks like you hire photogs who just got out, ex-cons and the like. It's sad to see that you have focused so much negative energy on imposing on other people's lives to earn a living, when there are so many positives in life that you could be acheiving. I feel very sorry for you, and your children.

And you have no right to comment on journalism. This is journalism at its WORST... LA Times is beyond your means of comprehension.

Posted by: I Know The Secret


Fuck Perez Hilton. Either he is a completely brain-dead moron who doesn't UNDERSTAND copyrights and fair use, or he's a deliberate THIEF.
It's not just X17's images, either--he copies and pastes entire articles from other sites, giving the reader 1) the impression that he wrote the articles (as if!), and 2) absolutely no reason whatsoever to click over to the author's site (thereby stealing advertising dollars).

FUCK PEREZ. I hope you--or someone, if not X17!--sues him into debtor's prison. Teach these online thieves a lesson once and for all!

Posted by: Anonymous


Think about this: "Perez is not being targeted because he's an affront to paparazzi everywhere," said technology expert Matt Lum, whose company, Hoodlum Productions, provides technology expertise to both Hilton and X17."

Hodlum provides IT for you and Perez ? And seems that Hoodlum is symphatetic with Perez And you wonder why some of the pics are stolen from you ??

Posted by: Are you naive ?


I hopw cameron diaz sues your ass, ala the blind item in page six. Perez is simply the best blog. Period. This is about jealousy, plain and simple.

Posted by: g


I find it hilarious that all of Perez Hilton's fanboys are bitching about X17's stalking, when they're the ones lapping that shit up.
Whatsoever would you idiots do if X17 and other paparazzi didn't "stalk" these pathetic, publicity-loving celebrities of sleaze?
Hypocrites. If you don't like it, don't patronize sites like Perez Hilton's or any of the other sites that (legally) use paparazzi photos. Morons!

LOL!

Posted by: Anonymous


Wow I didn't it was possible but you're actually more obnoxious than Perez is!!!! You sound like a jealous child. I came over to check your site out after reading about this on Perez' site. God your site sucks!

Posted by: Anonymous


I was just wondering if you paid the celebrities for their photos? You stalk and harass them non-stop, get their photos, profit from them, yet you pay them nothing for their trouble.

How is that legal?

Posted by: Just a gal with questions


oh no. you only got 15,000 for a picture. you poor assholes. i feel so bad. i hope YOU get sued by the celebs.

Posted by: Anonymous


Paparazzi or not, the photographer (unless for hire) owns the photographs. You couldn't just take their home, car, cell and such...like it or not...this is no different! I support the lawsuit 100%!

Posted by: Anonymous


i hope you shut down his page!! i hate that fat ass!!



All the people that wrote bad things ABOUT X17 ARE POOR IGNORANTS THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT LAWS AND COPYRIGHTS. PEREZ IS A PILFERER. I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT THE FAG IS STEALING. fUCKING PEOPLE, WHAT DO YOU GUYS SEE IN THAT FAG HE IS STEALING, THIS IS AMERICA. x17 IS NOT WASHING THEIR LAUNDRY IN PUBLIC, THEY ARE JUST GIVING THE GHANGE, AND IF YOU GUYS THINK THE PAPARAZZI DO TERRIBLE THINGS, JUST DON'T COME TO THIS WEH ANYMORE, SIMPLE AS THAT MORONS

Posted by: Anonymous


images u work hard to get

u mean how u harass britneys spears and delibrately zoom into her privates and then acts like she showed it to u!!! talk about invasion of privacy...see i would feel for x17 as i hate perez even more....get one thing right.TREAT BRITNEY GOOD AND U WILL HAVE OUR SUPPORT. DONT underestimate her fan support on the web...all it takes is one thred and i can get 100's of ppl here complaining what u do to britney. how about u been nice to her when u see her like she is with u...she does never be evil to ur paps like lets say justin and cameron

2007 the year BRITNEYS

Posted by: Anonymous


Screw Brittany, she knows what to expect. If she doesn't want it, get out of the business and especially QUIT SEEKING IT! (Besides, cameras around or not, you don't sit with your legs open in a barely there skirt with no panties on in public. If you think that was an accident and she's the victim, you need your head examined pronto...among other things!)

Posted by: 2006 Her Downfall


IS IT OK TO STALK CELEBRITIES....IS THAT LEGAL?

Posted by: Anonymous


regardless of the "newsworthiness" of the photos that are being taken of celebrities, i totally agree with you on the fact that what he's doing is copyright infringement. if one blogger is allowed to circumvent the rules, then who are we to say who has to follow the rules?

Posted by: Anonymous


The way your photographers stalk and harrass celebrities is disguting, but Perez Hilton is wrong to steal images. If Perez was a news blogger and was taking images from the LA Times website, you know they too would sue his ash.

Posted by: Ruby Jackson


We support you X17 !!!!!

No one has the right to steal someone else's property.

Posted by: iHeartParis


It's not fair that Perez makes a living solely from stealing celeb photos and adding some crappy caption to them. He is a talentless hack. I wish you guys the best with your lawsuit against Perez - I would love to see his waste of cyberspace site shut down!

Cheers,
Abbie in New Zealand :)

Posted by: Abbie


Didn't you realize when you were interviewed that the journalist was going to spin the story one way or another? For a photo agency that deals with plenty of news agencies, it's amazing how blind you can be to obvious journalism techniques. Articles like these are the reason for the phrase "no comment." You got yourself into this mess.

Posted by: Lesley


if u wanted that article person to be fair to x17 over perez i think u should have not criticised their grammer!!! bad move!!!

also u all deserve the crap...harassing celebs and writing crap about them. u deserve no sympathy. your just as bad as perez.

Posted by: Anonymous


Who are you to criticise REAL journalists? Seriously.

Posted by: Anonymous


I think that your lawsuit is bogus. Half of the time Perez has similar pictures on his website before you even put them up. He has said many times, that paparazzi personally send him some of their photos. Seeing as how there are twenty of ya'll surrounding a celebrity at one time you are pretty likely to get similar photos. Plus, everything that Perez writes is out of humor and nothing more. You write mean things about the pictures of the celebrities that you post, trying to start mean rumors. The lawsuit is completely ludacris. I didn't even bother to read the whole letter, because within the first two sentences it was obvious you have a case on nothing, and I bet that who ever you are sending the letter to will not even bother to read it.

Posted by: Anonymous


oh, and as an aside.... i don't know how your contracts are written up with your photgraphers, but in my experience (as a photographer and designer), the photos belongs first and foremost to the artist (photog) himself. if that photographer then chooses to sell that photo to perez hilton AND X17, then essentially you have no grounds for your case.... once again, i'm not aware of what is written in your contracts, but i doubt you purchased your photographers' cameras, etc for them.... and aren't you essentially 'contracting out' work to them? making their photos their own property which they choose to sell, etc?

Posted by: jc


"And pitching the story in the second paragraph, as somehow less serious or valid because we take paparazzi images and not ‘news’ images, is confusing the issue."

The English word "And" should never begin a sentence. I see that you have an Iranian attorney - USA classifies Iranians as residents of the Axis of Evil. Isn't it funny that you had chosen an Iranian to represent American beliefs?

Posted by: Anonymous


The only reason I even found out about X-17 is from Perez Hilton's blog. I don't agree with the way he gets photos. I do agree he should link and give credit where credit is due. But to be honest I always go to his site first. Even if I don't like him. He has more info on his blog then any of the other sites including this one.

Posted by: DallasOpinion


Well, at least Perez's attorney has tipped his hand now. He's going to claim fair use as it relates to satire and parody. No wonder he no longer posts a single undoctored photo.

Posted by: JeeezeLouise


your job and living is based on stealing the privacy of celebrities. now perez is stealing the pics from you. its the circle of life bitches. you are stupid enough to be in the business, so deal with it

Posted by: Anonymous


your right, the fag is wrong

Posted by: Anonymous


i used to like this site, but lately the only posts are on britney, paris, and lindsey. so boring... *yawn*... i used to check this site before i would go to perez's, but now I like his site WAY MORE. It's funny, plain and simple. And he makes posts about more celebs than the previously mentioned. He is just commenting on the pics, not trying to say they are his own. I totally side with Perez. X17 sucks!

Posted by: canadialand girl


I also found your site THROUGH Perez's. Both sites are terrible in taste and one day you will all be bringing eachother down, which I think you deserve. You most likely employ illegal immigrants with cameras who will do anything for a dime, and you are very childish to setup a lawsuit to someone who has brought you much success, just as you have him.

Posted by: Anonymous


I used to hate Perez, but lately i've started warming back up to him - i think he's calmed down a bit with his poison, he stopped being cleverly bitchy & started being downright nasty, which was totally gross. ANYWAY.... I was also on the side of x17 with this subject, but have changed my mind about that too - who the hell are they to take unauthorised pictures of celebs & resell for PROFIT, why can't bloggers take those unauthorised pics & use for profit,? in the end they are UNAUTHORISED PICS right from the start to the end of the line!!! I wish it were legal for celebs to sue paparazzi for taking unauthorised pics of them & using them for profit! I'm sick & tired of seeing the paparazzi's ugly pics, they shoot their photo's from the ground so they can get photo's of ppls panties/vag's as they're gettin' out of cars..... & then the celebs are berated for not wearing undies.... SO FUCKING WHAT IF THEY DONT WEAR UNDIES OUT - it should remain that person's business whether they wore undies or not, but these sleazy no soul paparazzi invade that privacy!!!

P.S Brandy sounds like a whinging, petty arsehole - who makes a deal outta EVERYTHING, i hope she loses her case!!

Posted by: Anonymous


I agree