In onther words She is still crazy and needs to be suppervised every minute. She can only see her babies with a team of experts with her all the time. She she was basically awarded some extra time with them, BUT, only with professionals watching her every move. Does not sound like she really won much at all after all.

I have to agree with you 4:13. Getting a few extra hours a week with your own babies, but with paid professionals watching your every move, is not something to be proud of.

X17, Kaplan even stated that over night visits would start in one month. Your source on the psych report? Just another X17 B.S caption with recycled pictures to generate discussion for this site.

Pa, Ma, Big Legals, and the deadbeat can keep on tak'n the dough.....keep her drugged just enough to not be able to get her life back, and hold the kids over her head for good measure, pimp her out for big money gigs.....and Ma, Pa, Big Legals, and deadbeat live high forever and ever.

X17, I see what you are saying. If Britney does get some freedom in the next two monthes (the coservatorship is over), then the courts will be afraid or at least reluctent to let her have her kids with her on her own since Britney is not being supervised. But if she is kept under the conservatorship with people watching her, then she can have more time with her babies. Either way she loses. The courts may let her have some of her own freedom back after july, but that does not mean they will let her have her babies back since that is a whole different think. I also think it will be some time before Brit will be allowed to have her own freedom and the babies alone with her at the same time. It may even take a couple of years to reach that point. I worked in the courts of L.A. for about four years and law a lot of family drama in the court systme, and when it come to children that have parents that the courts are worried about that have mental problems, the courts realy do take their time before letting a parent with mental problems have their kids back. And that is they way is should be since the chilren are what is important here and kids should never be put in danger like that. I hope Britney does get better though and eventually does get them back when she stabalizes. But that can take quite some time seeing how far down she went and how bad a mental condition she has. Good luck Britney!

"Sounds kinda unfair"

Sounds kinda unfair to who, Britney? I guess Britney's feelings trump the safety and well-being of Sean and Jayden.

Who made K fed scammer lawyer - Kaplan , the spokeman for the family court

Any additional time that Britney is allowed with her kids is a victory for Britney and the children.

OKAY WHERES HER FRAGILE INNOCENT CHILD POSTER WHO IS 47 YEARS OLD??
Sunnyday the child molesterer

These are her wacked out left over die hard fan. The ones that are mentally and emotionally very childish at 47 or even britneys age at 26.
Leszek piotr is 47 years old posting this garbabge. He is just as immature as Britney.

Victory Parade for Britney , location and time too be determined.

Good crew it's cool :) titfucking :-]]]

4.28 whats so victorious about britney not having ANY custody f her flesh and blood. Gee where were you when britney came out of rehab in april 2007 and decided for 13 months to not make a motion to the courts to get her 50/50 custody back? Let me guess you were then routing her on with her HOB tour that faile, OK shoot melt down and her VMA failure. Ya real Victourious.

4:29 Obsessed with Sunnyday much? Why are you advertising his myspace page for him? Are you Sunnydays new bitch?

Good crew it's cool :) titfucking :-]]]

Good crew it's cool :) titfucking :-]]]

The problem with people that have severe mental problems is that it is for life. There is no cure for Brintey's condition or she would have been cured already. All they can do is medicate her and supervise her for the rest of her life. It will be an ongoing thing, especially if she really is bi-polar. You can only control it, you can't cure it. That also means that if she goes off her meds or has a bad spot in her life again, that she can, and probably will go crazy again, which can end up losing her babies all over again. She will need the halp of her family and doctors for the rest of her life. Such a shame since she was such a great and fun performer at the begining of her career before she went downhill. I don't think anyone back then would have imagined her doing any of the things she has done in the last two or three years. With everyone in the industry now knowing what is wrong with her, it is unlikely they will invest in her like they did in the past with major tours (millions of dollars from investors, etc.), since she may and probably will go crazy with all the presure and cancel in the middle of the tour again and cost them millions in loses etc.

Britney asked him to marry her twice. he said NO the first time. Britney filed for divorce. WHo should pay for it? britney knew kfed is not in the same financial league as she is in.
She asked him for marriage , she asked him for divorce. YOu get what you want with the almighty fans dollars.

She will shoot herself at 31 just like her gramma spears did at 31(jamies Mother)

sunnyday sunnyday sunnyday

these are Britneys 47 year old fan base in foriegn countries..

Go buy britneys merchandise she needs your money

She really was one of the greatest performers when she started out. To bad she turned out like this.

Kfed begged Britney to get married , after which he got a hold of her Bank account and been living the good life , ever since.

too bad for her? who cares about her! She had enough money for 8 generations to follow her without ever having to work.

4:31 @2
Did you actually read my post at 4:28? Where did I mention anything about her having custody? And WTF is all that other rambling on you did about rehab and VMA have to do with anything in my post?
I stated that any additional time Britney is allowed to have with her kids is a victory for Britney and the children.
Would you like me to say it's a GOOD thing for them rather use the word victory? You apparently have a problem with the children seeing there mother. I do not have a problem with them seeing her.

4:34 Hopefully you'll shoot yourself too. But I'll bet someone else will probably end up shooting your silly ass first.

4:38@2 Well obviously you care something about her or else you would not be commenting on her life.

Her family waited a YEAR until they got involved and got her help. She was left alone with those kids and on dope. There are countless videos of her in the car, smoking, cussing, with the children in the back. Everyone around her did NOTHING. Now she's a stoned zombie on psychotropic drugs and she's not going to get the kids back anytime soon. Kevin was a good enough father to get those boys away from her and in a stable home. She comes over a few times a week and walks while someone else pulls the boys around and plays with them. She's a WASTE OF LIFE and a VERY bad mother. She spends more time at the gym than with her own kids. Some "mother"

4:51 "She spends more time at the gym than with her own kids."
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Hey Genius, explain how she suppose to spend more time with the kids when she not authorized by the court to do so?
You should become more informed on the issues before you shoot your mouth off.

4:51 is just another assuming asshole that knows nothing about the facts.

4:36 Yep, that's true, but she's probably lucky she made it as far as she did. I wonder how things would have turned out had she not become plagued with mental problems?

She was said to have a personal account on 'BillionaireCupid.com' club with her hot pictures and blogs there. The site is getting hotter and hotter, cuz quite a few millionaires and celebrities tend to go there.

This is for all you idiots claiming utter victory- SUCK IT!!! I've been saying this since the decision came out that she was only getting a couple of hours more on days she already had! Nope, none you you fans could stand to hear this and told me I was full of it! Well, well, now the truth comes out and it is NOT good news for Brit and you're pissed off and lashing out at others because you were wrong! I usually don't gloat like this, but I was so tired of the inability of so many to see the truth! So there you go, the truth is out! Suck on it!

I think Brit is making progress every day.This isn't a movie but she is getting there. I can't believe the negativity on this board unless it's Osama Lutfi posting.

Britney and her family are getting there.

Chill out everybody.

I think Brit is making progress every day.This isn't a movie but she is getting there. I can't believe the negativity on this board unless it's Osama Lutfi posting.

Britney and her family are getting there.

Chill out everybody.

Slutney chased after K-Fed because she lusted for him. She bought him. After she filed for divorce, she asked him if he wanted to come back to her and cancel the divorce plans. He said "No." She brought this mess on herself. Money can't buy love. It can buy sex, which is what she wanted from him and got.

Is that the way she went to court, dressed like that? And someone has to guide her around and hold her by the arm? Pathetic.

Yeah, X17...Im suuure your hoping for the best.

She's not mentally ill. She's under-educated, spoiled, narcissistic, immature, druggie, and a party girl to name a few of her failings.

See, if Ma & Pa Spears pass her off as being mentally ill, then she can act as stupid as she wants and people will forgive her. Not all of us are fooled, however.

She does not want to be responsible for her two children. When her marriage ended, she was too selfish to care for the children even part-time and with all kinds of help, nannies, maids, cooks, etc.

She doesn't get off the hook that easily.

5:18
You're wrong on the visitation rights. Before the court hearing yesterday Britney was only allowed to see her kids once a week for a 3 hour time period. Her visitation rights were expanded at Tuesday hearing from once a week, to 3 times a week for 3 hours each. Over night visitation with her children will begin in a month.
Go to TMZ and check out the video of Kaplan after the hearing speaking to the press. Kaplan is definetly a more reliable sourse of information than TMZ will ever be.
Numerous other sites, People Magazine etc announced the same visitation rights I just quoted. Go check for yourself.

5:34- I take it your so close with the family to know that Britney is definatly NOT mentally ill? No one acts out like she has and dosent have a mental illness.
Of course she wants to be responsible for her children or she wouldnt visit with them or go to court and fight for them. No one can force her to do these things.
I dont remember ever seeing or hearing about nannies, maids, and cooks. Just assistants. SHe always had her kids with her. Anyways, if you were rich, youd have them to. So dont hate. Man, you sure act like you know so much for someone who knows so little.

5:26@1 Oh you poor pathetic moron...where have you been hiding all your life?
What ever made you think that the picture X17 is showing on this thread is her appearing in court? Your just another example of a deranged assuming idiot. X17 post a picture of Britney and comments on her visitation rights and you automatically assume it's a picture of her appearing in court. LOL Someone is probably leading your dumbass around by the arm too. LMAO@U

THIS WHOLE POST IS A FARCE ORCHESTRATED BY SAM LUTFI.

BRITNEY IS MAKING PROGRESS EVERYDAY.

GO TO HELL AND ROT, SAM.

THIS WHOLE POST IS A FARCE ORCHESTRATED BY SAM LUTFI.

BRITNEY IS MAKING PROGRESS EVERYDAY.

GO TO HELL AND ROT, SAM.

5:34 Britney is either mentally ill or else you are. Take your pick.

5:44 It's a farce alright, but it's generated by X17 to stir up contraversy among posters. X17 flat out lied about visitation rights. Sam Lutfi has nothing to do with the thread captions X17 post for comment.

I told Ya so The Lawyers will take everything Brit has and then demand more

X17 honestly your comments regarding Britney under her conservatorship are so lame. Britney has gotten so much better since she has been under her fathers care. I know you guys probably made a lot more money off her pics when she was with Sam acting a fool and driving to the gas station 20 times a day. Britney is your piggy bank. This conervatorship is good for her even though it isnt good for you.

Sam Lutfi is out of lock-up and is he PISSED OFF!

Sam Lutfi is out of lock-up and is he PISSED OFF!

5:49 Yup!

5:42(1) I believe back then Britney was the one who said the NANNY dropped the baby when taking him from his high chair.

I told Ya so The Lawyers will take everything Brit has and then demand more

6:03 And I believe that you dreamed up alot of crap too. I have never seen any pictures of Britney Spears using a nanny to care for her kids ever. Even when Britney had full time custody there was never a nanny pictured with her and the kids.

The sooner people realize that Spears suffers from some form of mental illness, the better off everyone will be here.

5:18
You're wrong on the visitation rights. Before the court hearing yesterday Britney was only allowed to see her kids once a week for a 3 hour time period. Her visitation rights were expanded at Tuesday hearing from once a week, to 3 times a week for 3 hours each. Over night visitation with her children will begin in a month.
Go to TMZ and check out the video of Kaplan after the hearing speaking to the press. Kaplan is definetly a more reliable sourse of information than TMZ will ever be.
Numerous other sites, People Magazine etc announced the same visitation rights I just quoted. Go check for yourself.
May 7, 2008 5:37 PM
Posted by: Anonymous
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No, you are incorrect. She was already visiting 3 times a week for the deal Kfed made. This was simple expanded a few hours. And also no, the overnight visits are not set in stone yet! She can't even enter into a legal contract, let alone make decisions for herself. And it is likely that unless they get someone to legally and impartially stay on overnight visits, this doesn't sound as likely as you might think. This very article itself says in quotes "well down the road". A month is usually not listed as "well down the road"! The fact that her psyche report is holding things up also does not bode well for her either. Even I know that she was visiting, supervised for every moment mind you, for more than once a week. I suggest you check your sources and read more carefully before you make such statements!

Of course Britney is mentally ill. Her eyes have no depth like they used to. Somethings definalty not right there. Its almost like her eyes have no "feelings" anymore. Its getting better but shes still zombie-like. Weird how I say it but im sure you get the jist. But I pray she gets better.

I spread the Britster's meat cheeks wide and dive in as she devours a 12" philly cheese steak with onions, peppers and hot sauce. You go girl!

Why is there all this talk about Britney getting her "freedom" back??? Freedom to do what?? Flash her pantiless self?? Buy 10 boxes of laxatives all at once?? Sit on the side of the road crying?? Drive around aimlessly with her kids not strapped into their carseats properly?? Wearing incredibly inappropriate clothing out in public?? Being victimized by leeches like Lutfi?? He set her up for some serious embarrassment plenty of times!! The conservatorship is protecting her from herself!! If you can't see that you're dumber than Lutfi is sleezey!! Look back at some of the stuff Britney did...do you think it was a publicity stunt to get a cut from pap photos?? I thought so (very clever and industrious) but then she crossed the "normal" line with the head shave and the wandering and her "period" panties and the weird Rite Aid shopping, etc, etc, etc. The conservatorship is saving her!!

6:08 yes that post you responded to was true. It was while she was still married to KFed.

5:34, the poster that does not claim she is mentally ill. I can certainly understand your frustration in this, but as much as I agree with some of your statement, I believe she is mentally ill and always have believed it and here's why.
Declaring her mentally ill will actually make things worse for her in many ways. If she was only lazy, she would probably have her dad get her out of this rut for some point. Being MI actually ruins much of her chance for the Spears Money Machine to profit off of her. Major promoters and venues are simply not as likely to take such a chance on banking her. Everything the courts, her lawyers, and family has said would back that this is a lifelong problem that simply will not go away. Even Scam Lutfi screwed himself by foolishly admitting her gave her meds and even said what some were and they are primarily for mental illness, especially in such combinations. There is no way that he could have made this up in some conspiracy. It would also imply that everyone involved down the road, including impartial officials are also in a conspiracy and that is simply not possible. As for pity, there is so much negativity with MI that while there will be some pity, many will just look at her as much worse off than just being lazy. If MI wasn't true, you can bet that her parents would have come out strongly against such accusations because it directly affects her money making abilities and image. Being MI also does not fully excuse her actions either. I know people who suffer from similar things and they are held fully culpable for their actions. Hell, they have even recently executed people who are mentally in similar situations. I'm sure that her parents would happily free her up to make more money instead of being blocked, possible permanently, from making even more money on deals contingent on her being mentally capable of handling her own affairs. So in essence, it is actually worse for her to be in this situation than simply being selfish and lazy alone. I'm not ripping on your opinion, I am simply asking you to consider that the myriad of evidence points to her problems being ones she will face for life.

Thanks 6:56 for defending what I said but I went back and looked for the article. Little Miss Britard at 6:08 it seems you are the ONLY one full of crap and more. Google it for yourself Spears Nanny drops baby. CBS News, LA Times and People covered it. April 1, 2006 6 month old Sean Preston was accidently dropped from his high chair when the NANNY went to remove him. Although a doctor came to the house that day to examine him, he was taken to the hospital the next day by his parents as he seemed sleepier than usua. Child Welfare and Sheriff deptuies investigated the case. See Britard, just because you don't want to believe it doesn't mean it isn't true.

To tell you the truth they should let Britney live her life and be with her kids. people should butt out and take care of themselves. Children need their parents no matter what so for my opinion people need to clean their own backyards first.Leave Britney alone. Deal with your own damn issues.

Mary Good Voice another tard voice heard from. How about those kids, should they get a chance to live their lives? If left alone with a mentally fragile mother what do you think their chances are of survival?

6:28 I stand by my understanding of the visitation rights that were expanded in court Tuesday. I also trust the sources that I mentioned. And X17's caption comments on this thread are not my sources.
All of Britney's current visits with her kids must be supervised. The over night visits, which BTW Britney has been pressing for, will commence in a month and will also require supervision. As we all have seen from video footage of previous once a week visits, supervision basicly means her father being present.
If I were you I would not base my assumptions soley on one caption that X17 posted with this thread. I'm not going to start assuming what the definition of "down the road" might mean to some X17 flunky writing the caption. I do however comprehend Kaplan stating that over night visit would commence in one month. I'm quite sure the court does not deal in terms like "down the road," but it's obvious that X17 and you do.I would strongly suggest that you visit TMZ and do a search in search to Britneys visitation rights. You'll find an entire history of the child custody case starting with Britney actually losing custody of the children. I'm quite sure you would prefer that your comments be based on facts and not some vague caption comments that some X17 employee posted on this thread to generate discussion.
And yes, I'm sure there are definetly some concerns over Britney's mental status that be resolved in the future before unsupervised visitation is allowed.
Visitation now stands at 3X a week for 3 hours each with over night visits commencing in a month.

7:09, you act like I am not familiar with what other sites have said. I visit many sites in fact and this is another assumption you have incorrectly made. The supervision is also done by impartial people and not just solely her father. The fact that her visitation was merely extended a few hours is nothing miraculous. I am actually having a difficult issue finding what you base your assumptions on when it seems clear that this is not a major victory. The court also prevented unsupervised visits due to her mental health and that is why she was blocked from overnights and unsupervised visits. Nothing has been set in stone a month from now, yet you act as if this is a certainty. You also assume that this source was an X17 employee and I would like to see your proof of this as well. If everything was peachy keen with her, surely they would have given her more than what she just got. I see you are making big assumptions yourself and you seem to think you have some inside track that many others do not share. This is nothing but arrogance on your part! Remember, this is someone that can't even enter into a legal contract and this would indicate serious mental illness. Mental illness is not something that goes away with simply determination and lasts a lifetime. Maybe you should research how mental illness works and such things as brain chemistry before you deceive yourself that this is simply all going to go away.

X17 doesn't have any right to even offer an opinion in the situation of Britney Spears' mental state and financial/custodial situation or custody of children. It's none of your business, you know absolutely nothing about her medical condition or anything else, and you have absolutely no qualifications that would render your opinion of any significance. So Shut Up, why don't you?

To all the naysayers and haters, this is additional proof that Britney Spears suffers from debilitating emotional/mental problems which cause her some incapacitation in her life. You would be wise to desist from your constant hateful accusations of bad conduct and try to wrap your tiny brains around reality.

7:29
You don't know anything about Spear's mental state, financial/custodial status either.
Why don't you take your own advice?

7:29, so now you are just reduced to telling people to shut up. You just reversed you own statement about know what her status on the mental illness issue is by stating that you have inside information that she is suffering from something that you claim no one else is aware of! Specifically, you say there is no way we can know what her issues are and then you say she is having these same issues that you deny others of seeing (?). And no one needs to have the exact knowledge of her records when the results of this and the statement that the lawyers just made indicate something very obvious. You are frustrated and confused because this is an argument you are only shooting yourself in the foot with. You have lost all basis of constructive discourse and now you are just flailing and calling people who disagree with you as having 'tiny brains'. Too bad for you!

The problem with the conservertership is that it continues to be ILLEGAL. This Judge Goetz did her parents (and the lawyers that are fleesing her accounts) a favor by pretending that she is 'mentally incompetent'. but it cannot last forever-mental incompetence is by definition someone who cannot feed themselves, practice personal hygene, work, shop, drive, go somewhere w/o getting lost and not being able to find their way home etc. like a late stage alzheimers patient, 'bi-polar' or 'moodyness' oe someone that tends to have 'manic episodes' a spoiled brat etc. DOES NOT COUNT so if it's bad for the custody hearing so be it, but the conservertership must end pretty soon, i have been shocked that they broke the law and went this far with..hello constitution people!

high *5* @ 7:38
good post!

7:43, you claim that this is illegal and yet she is better off since this c-ship has happened. Surely, in a case this big, the legal experts would be picking this apart if it was not true. This would also reek of a massive conspiracy to make her appear to be mentally ill, yet no one seems to be questioning that this is necessary in order for her to survive. Just because not everyone in the world is under a c-ship with similar problems is not proof whatsoever that this is being wrongly used here. I am not a fan, yet even I can see that see had made improvements since it has been in place. Just look at pre and post c-ship to see the difference. If you are really a fan, I would think that you would want as much help and protection as she can get and that has been in place since this the c-ship has been in place. Totally cutting her loose is certainly not in her best interest at this point and it may and probably will be something that will last years and possibly a life time. You are digging at a mountain that you can't possibly move.

7:44, you sound like the post @ 7:37. Sorry if I was redundant in what you just said in your post as well. We seem to be in agreement. Cool with me!

While she might have a slight mental illness, her biggest problem is who she is -- a spoiled, narcissistic, selfish, incredibly STUPID, immature moron who has too much money who never grew up. At this stage in her life, I dont think she will ever change.

7:44, Sorry, I made an assumption 7:37 was you and I just realized it. My apologies either way. I am trying to avoid gross assumptions as much as possible.

that's ok, it's hard to keep straight when everyone is anonymous.

7:59-2, it may be more than slight, but I am not going to argue with your opinion. My friend who is SMI makes no excuses for himself when he messes up. He only seeks to rectify them properly and not make them again. He's got major problems, yet he owns up to his actions and I think it is a key to why he is doing so well.

7:25
We have all seen plenty of helicopter footage of Britney visiting with her boys recently. One a week to be exact. Do you recall how many so called "impartial people" were seen with Britney, the kids and her father while walking and pulling the kids in a wagon? Every picture showed only her father and a female assistant with Britney and her kids. Must I remind you that her father as conservator is legally held responsible for those kids while they visit Britney?
The visitation rights were expanded from once a week to 3X a week with over night visits commencing in a month per Kaplans press statement. Please direct me to the post where I stated that the new visitation rights were "miraculous?" Apparently you have assumed that I must think that, because I most certainly never stated that. Apparently you some how feel that yesterdays court hearing was indeed a major victory for Britney because you also used the term "major victory" in reference to the expanded visitation rights and not me.
Did you perhaps see the cover of "People Magazine" where they declared yesterdays hearing a victory for Britney? Something is motivating you to down play the new expanded visitation rights.
Who do you think wrote the caption for this thread for X17 that you base your assumptions on? It was definetly a X17 employee. I think you depend soley on X17 for your info.
There is no inside track, and I never claimed or implied that I had one. Once again you have made a grave assumption that is incorrect.
I ask you to go to TMZ and educate yourself on the custody and visitation issue to include Kaplans press video. It's very apparent that you would rather rely solely on the X17 caption on this thread to base your assumptions on.
The court hearing yesterday and the expanded visitation rights with over night stays starting in a month is not some big secret. The outcome was widely published and discussed on every site including X17 yesterday. However,if you wish to only base your assumption of what the visitation rights are after yesterdays hearig on what some X17 employee put on this caption that's fine by me. I will however encourage you once again to visit TMZ and search the visitation issue.

8:02
You have a real habit of making gross assumptions here with your post. I am however glad to see that you acknowledge making assumptions and you are making an effort to break the habit of doing so. Your post would carry much more weight if you only stick with the facts.

7:59
Britney Spears does not have a slight mental illness. She not under a conservatorship simply becauseof a slight mental illness. She's not allowed to be alone with her kids simply because of a slight mental illness.
And her mental problems have nothing to do with who she is.

Oh jeez, 8:08 ish, here we go again. There may have only legally been one day in place, but she was seeing them multiple times a week. Now it was made legal and extended a few hours. And how do you know who was there and who was not? I absolutely do NOT think that this was a major victory for her and if anything, if she was better, she would have gotten more than she did. A few more hours was all she got. Even Kfed's camp indicte in the past that she would receive more time and that was what she got, but it was minimal. And unless Kaplan is a judge, there is no possible way that what ehe said is indeed, concrete. I could also care less what people said in their cover. It smacked of simplification that was quickly given and nothing more. And still assuming that the source was an X17 employee again without proof. Just more assumptions on your part again. I have already been to TMZ and have even commented there, so I am not unaware of what is being said. TMZ is not the paragon of all correctness and has often doubled back on what they say, yet you state this as being irrefutable. Over night visitations will be very hard to pull of under a c-ship. I tire of your arguments because they are so full of holes. Others see this, yet you don't You are just stuck in future forecasting made by others who are not reps of the court. Kaplan is not a judge and TMZ is not the court either. If you are such a fan of TMZ, you might have better luck there. Just remember that there are more than 2 sources to this and nothing you have said has swayed me one bit. Your arguments are redundant and not cogent in nature. Enjoy your night!

8:07, did you meet your mentally ill friend on the short yellow bus?

She not under a conservatorship simply becauseof a slight mental illness.

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...Think we'll ever learn what the exact causes of her behaviour are?

I'm thinking probably not...

8:27, spoken by someone taking cheap shots because you have no argument. Weak.

827

There is a difference between mental illness and mental retardation/ special needs. You look silly asking such question when speaking of mental illness.

7:34
You mean like getting lost like Britney did in the hills that night while driving her new black Benz convertible? You remember the footage right? The footage where Phillipe had to get in her car and turn it around and drive her out of the rural mountain dirt road because she was so confused and stated she lost and scared? :))

Fuck You x17 you people dont give a shit about Brit and you dont have any fucking source so stfu.

I tried to post this earlier, so I hope this is not a repost. Sorry if it is, the computer's slow-
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Chucky, I made a prediction a short time ago that we would not see the direct records, only the results. I agree with you. It would not necessarily serve them, but it is their choice. It could go either way as far as helping things or not.

It was Muholland Drive, not a dirt road; I have had a friend get sick while traveling up the road, if you are not big on roller coasters it is one you would do best to avoid! Furthermore, adding the darkness of that night and the many vehicles in pursuit, it would be scary for anyone who doesn't know the road well! The paps had her follow them there and half way up she got freaked out. There are no guard rails as it winds up the hillside! She was lost because she had never been the back way, to her home! Go watch the video!

It would not necessarily serve them, but it is their choice. It could go either way as far as helping things or not.

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...I'm thinking we may hear the truth down the line in a big interview with Diane Sawyer (or something like that). Revealing what is REALLY going on would be a big coup for whoever lands the gig!

I doubt it will happen any time soon though - I would think Brit's got to get fully back on track career-wise before anything like that would happen. And sadly, with the way things are going, I don't know if that will ever happen.

...Sorry, that was a lot of "happens" in one post! LOL

Chucky, yup! I think it would help them and may come down the road at some point. It would certainly end much speculation, but I guess they must not be too concerned with speculation at this time as they have bigger fish to fry. I am not sure if charging headlong into her career again would be her best bet. I think that it could be a formula for difficulties if anything goes the least bit sideways. I just don't see her career as being a number one priority when there are still so may issues. She would probably have to be released from the c-ship to make it possible and that hasn't happened as of yet.

Chucky, no worries. I've got a sticky 'r' key and do not proof read as well as I should.

rotfl
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Your post made me consider what a Britney concert would be like if Papa Spears had final sign off on her attire and activity during a performance!

Tomyle er sam. Sorry sucker but maybe you should call the LA County Public Guardians office. They have thousands of conserved people under their care. Some of them are like you stated above but most of them require constant monitoring to take their medications. It is called a LPS conservatorship based on law called the Letraman-Petris act. Since you dont know what the hell you are talking about why dont you just shut your damn pie hole mmmkay!

8:57, the mind boggles!

8:57, the mind boggles!

There may have only legally been one in place, but she was seeing them multiple times a week. Now it was made legal and extended a few hours.
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If she was only legally authorized prior to yesterday day's hearing to see her kids once a week, how in hell do you claim she was seeing them multiple times a week? Where did you pull that statement out from?
And If she could already see them multiple times a week like you claim, why the hell did they even have a court hearing yesterday?
She was not seeing her kids multiple times a week prior to yesterday. She was only allowed to see them once a week just like the court order stated. Do you actually believe that court ordered visitation is meaningless and she sees the kids whenever she so desires?
It's apparent that you have no idea in hell what you are talking about making statesments like that concerning her visitation rights.
Are you aware of the fact that X17 has had a helicopter taking pictures of her kids outside visiting her once a week only prior to yesterday?
Where did you ever get the idea that Britney was allowed to violate court ordered visitation rights stating once a week and see her kids multiple time a week like you claimed prior to yesterday?
The entire purpose of the court hearing yesterday was to determine if she would be granted visitation rights beyond a once a week visit.
Her visitation rights are now 3X a week with over night visits started in a month per the press release by Kaplan.I'll be waiting for your explanation of just how you claim Britney was seeing her kids MULTIPLE a week prior to yesterdays court hearing.

Your post made me consider what a Britney concert would be like if Papa Spears had final sign off on her attire and activity during a performance!

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...I think we've already seen what happens when Brit is at the helm when it comes to concerts.

House of Blues, anybody? Eek!

8:59, interesting! I have never heard that exact name before! Cool! Time to google that when I have the time, which is growing short.

If she was only legally authorized prior to yesterday day's hearing to see her kids once a week, how in hell do you claim she was seeing them multiple times a week? Where did you pull that statement out from?

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...I was under the impression that Kevin was allowing her to see the boys (with heightened supervision...as in an army of bodyguards, lawyers, psychologists, her Dad, etc.) outside of the regular court order under a temporary deal hashed out by the lawyers.

True or false?

Hi Chucky. Gosh it's been forever.

I agree 5:34, well put. Britney may have some mental illness, but that DOES not excuse a lack of morals or neglecting her children. I know people who are mentally ill and can take care of their children.

I know someone who was in a conservatorship and never lost custody of her children.

There is always an excuse, she's influenced too much by Osama, she had too much too soon, she's mentally ill. There is ALWAYS someone who has had it worse and I can name several examples of people who, despite odds against them, have developed relationships with their kids.

She has A LOT more than most as far as materially and people who are on her side, SHE has really tried to flush it down the toilet.

The KIDS are the losers in any scenario. God bless THEM.

9:02, OMG! Where have you been living? Kevin was the one who went beyond the court's limitations. Now the court followed it up and added a few hours and made it legal! She visited them more than once a week and has been for a while! I am tempted not to comment on how capable you are any further than what I have already said, but.. You make zero sense to me anymore because you are lost in self caused inconsistency and over powering arrogance. Keep flogging that dead horse of yours!

Kfed gave her 3 days a week from 9am to 12pm. The new order stretches the time frame from about 9am to probably 5 or so. Kaplan did in fact say that overnights were forthcoming within the month. That came from his mouth not anyone interpreting what he said. Any additional time that Brit gets to spend with her kids is indeed a victory. I believe she is mentally ill, needs the supervision but all children need both of their parents ( in a safe, healthy environment). I really dont understand why you people go on and on with these stupid arguments as if Brit was your sister or worst enemy or something

9:04 I may have spelled the names wrong but we call it an LPS conservatorship in California. I am sure google can sort out the spelling.

Whatever, if you don't care to comment, then move along. This would seem to be what this thread is about.

yick 9:10

8:27
I offered you solid proof of yesterdays court hearing outcome in regards to her visitation rights and you merely brushed it aside. ofered you "Peoples Magazine" and also TMZ.
Do you understand that Kaplan is Federlines attorney and that he made an official statement to the press after court yesterday? Kaplan plainly stated that the visitation rights had beenextended from once a week to three times a week with over nights starting in a month. You have now even blown off Federlines attorney Mark Kaplan and his official statement by claiming he did not speak for the court. Do you actually expect the judge to make an official to the press? Get real here. You are wrong on your entire understanding of the visitation rights and I have provided ample proof and you refuse to admit you are wrong.

9:14, thanks! I bet just googling the initials and c-ship would work. The search engine would probably say 'Did you mean.....' and give the right link. Great for when stuff gets misspelled!

Rainbow,

...Are you spelling things differently, or do I spot an imp??

9:16, Flogging_A_Dead_Horse_Again! That seems to be your mission. I tire of you. Being perfectly honest about that, because you bore me.

If Kfed-up was allowing her to see those boys out of the kindness of his heart; he would have been violating a court order! They went to court and Jaimie and Kaplan/kfed came to an agreement which the judge put into effect.

9:08
That is entirely false. Where did you get that idea from? And what makes you think the lawyers have the authority to violate a standing court order pertaining to visitation rights?
Did you ever view pictures of Britney with her kids outside walking the street with an entire Army of people accompanying her and those kids? Go to TMZ and search the child visitation rights that have evolved over time and you'll see that you are incorrect.

Ok you two stop arguing. I do not recall Kaplan saying she only had one day a week. About a month or so ago everyone was in court because Brits old divorce attorney got the boot by daddy. The new one came on board. Brit was not there. During that hearing Kfed agreed to allow 3 days a week for 3 hrs each day. The judge signed off on it. In Calif that is usually how things work. They have both parties and their lawyers hash out a plan and then the judge signs off on it. If the parties cannot come to an agreement then the judge sends them to mediation. It is easy to fight over this nonsense but I live in Ca. and I have been through a divorce. I am sure TMZ or Smoking Gun has the above documents. Hopefully this will stop the bickering.

I think 9:16 needs some Midol.
Urgently.

she is the only star that everything she do is posted on sites like these, maybe if you leave her alone the media ,the haters,and some of these site, she can live a avg. life! no matter what ,britney is changing for the better,she is not doing this for you , she is doing this for herself and for her kids!so move on !let go of this woman past because she has!!!

she is the only star that everything she do is posted on sites like these, maybe if you leave her alone the media ,the haters,and some of these site, she can live a avg. life! no matter what ,britney is changing for the better,she is not doing this for you , she is doing this for herself and for her kids!so move on !let go of this woman past because she has!!!

she is the only star that everything she do is posted on sites like these, maybe if you leave her alone the media ,the haters,and some of these site, she can live a avg. life! no matter what ,britney is changing for the better,she is not doing this for you , she is doing this for herself and for her kids!so move on !let go of this woman past because she has!!!

9:16, Flogging_A_Dead_Horse_Again! That seems to be your mission. I tire of you. Being perfectly honest about that, because you bore me.

9:16 google it - Kaplan said overnight visits would be phased in in the near future. Surely you can find it easily enough, I did!

9:12 @1
Since when does kevin Federline have the authority to over rule a judge and decide when Britney can see her kids? Are you crazy or what? The judge is the only one authorized to approve Britney's visitations rights.

Chucky, I spell a few things different, didn't mean to.

Britney Spears’ Visitations Going Very Well

While the rest of Hollywood were still talking about the 2008 Oscars this monday morning, Super popstar Britney Spears was enjoying a visit from her sons Sean Preston and Jayden James.

OK! Magazine tells everything was going really well, The visit was from 9 a.m. to noon PT, A source close to Britney told : “The boys are very happy to see their mom”.

Just like it happened on the last visitation, on Saturday, today’s visit should happen only on the presence of Britney’s father Jamie Spears, Kevin’s bodyguard, a psychologist, a court-appointed monitor and a lawyer representing the conservationship.

The rumor around Britney Spears’ house is that the popstar could receive the visit from her boys at least 3 times a week if she keeps “doing it well”.Kevin Federline’s attorney, Mark Vicent Kaplan says that these visitations will help the boys to normalize their family enviroment and in addition he said that Kevin always wanted Britney to regain the visitation rights.Kaplan also said to OK! Magazine that court hearing scheduled to April 9th will most likely not to go down due to several reasons , such as the court needs to finish the evaluation of both parents.The hearing is more likely to be in the early summer.

Filed in News & Gossip
By Vini On February 25th, 2008

http: // brit-s.net/2008/02/

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The court allowed flexibility of it and their judgment seemed to indicate it. Kfed did not have to do it, but he did. What his motivations for it were, I cannot speculate and won't. It seemed to be made of good intentions though.

its karma

Chucky, how is it tonight? How's it been?

What's on with 9:10?

9:12@2 In court yesterday Federline and Kaplan agreed to extend the visitation rights from once a week to three times a week with over nights in a month.
The judge however is the one that must agree and approve the visitation rights agreed upon by both parties.

9:26 you have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are dense. Judges NEVER have a problem with children seeing their parents more time than may have been alloted in a court order, unless problems develop. After all, the desired outcome in any child custody case is the best interests of the children. The judge has no problem with Kevin being more generous. He would, however, have a problem with Kevin if he were to withhold any scheduled visitation time.

May 7, 2008 9:29 PM
Posted by: It's in the Rainbow, ya'll

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...Very quiet around here, Rainbow.

Where have you been hiding these days?

Please review 9:23 it explains the process

Lost in translation:

If even X-17 admits Skankney is in a "fragile mental state", you know what it means in plain English: she's retarded, totally incompetent and crazy as hell.

If you show her her kid and a pile of shit, 8 times out of 10 she can't tell which is which.

Thank you 9:31!

THe bottom line is that now after yesterdays court hearing the visatation rights approved by the Judge are: ? three times a week for three hours with over nights starting in a month. And that's the bottom line!

jfx Chucky, and "life" offline.

Reality you are welcome but I doubt it will stop the "debate". No matter what, the "fans" always refuse to acknowledge the truth if it doesn't fit their ideas.

Damn 9:35 is either hard headed or as delusional as Brit. Kaplan said phased in in the near future. Near future cannot be defined as one week, one month or one year. It is an obscure term, designed to allow wiggle room. It allows him, Kevin, the doctors and the court ample time to continue to assess her progress and make any further determinations on overnight visits.

9:31
If that is the case and Federline can decide when Britney is allowed to see the kids, then explain why there was a court hearing on extending visitations rights Tuesday?

...It's nice to see some debate on here tonight.

This place has been a little lacking in it lately!

Wouldn't it be just wonderful if the mighty anonymous at 9:35 would just produce Kaplan's one month statement? That would stop all the debate cause sure as hell his words of phase in in the near future can be produced right on the spot.

May 7, 2008 9:35 PM
Posted by: It's in the Rainbow, ya'll

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...I checked out JFX tonight but didn't see any posting going on. Is it usually like that on a Wednesday night?

9:36, I am just bored senseless with a certain poster and my fingers are tired from much typing here and from real life. Your input is much appreciated and I am tired of going over the same things again and again. At this point, it's not even worth responding to that same poster. Filibusters may work in government, but they just get you ignored in blogs. It's like watching someone hold their breath until they get what they want. I saw a spoiled kid in a toy store turn dark purple trying it. He failed.

Kaplan made an official press statement after court on Tuersday and plainly stated in English that over night visitation would start in one month. If you have not viewed his statement then you're behind times.

Chucky, you got yourself an imper friend. Sometimes I twinkle in the sky

If Federline can decide to allow Britney to see the children when you decides to, why have they been having court hearings to determine visitation rights?

ETs , spirits?
The very same so powerless , so so stinking dead shit.
No Thanks!
Love :)

my soul that fragile , innocent child in me .
So Precious.
Love :)

May 7, 2008 9:44 PM
Posted by: Anonymous

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...I figured as much... LOL

Astral life?
Such a waist of light.
No Thanks!

Kaplan specifically stated in his press release to TMZ that over night visitation would start in a month.

I think it speaks volumes that Kfed feels Brit should have custody/visitation. My guess it is because he actually KNOWS Britney, unlike the speculators here both fans and foes. If the father of these children feels it is in their best interest to be with their mother then why cant the rest of you have faith in his judgment and let her be.

Kaplan is not a judge. Those sound like a statement of intention. Lawyers work like that.

I am carrying with me gift of immortality...
Love :)

What many of you do not realize is that many famous people are mentally ill. Marilyn Monroe had manic depression known today as Bipolar Disorder, so is Ted Turner (ya know Jane Fonda's ex..owner of Turner Broadcasting which merged with Time Warner and he is worth over 2 billion or more) Bipolar, Greg Loughanis 5 time Olympic Gold Medalist, Bipolar Disorder, Alanis Morissette, Depression, Lionel Aldridge, retired defensive end for the Green Bay Packers playing and winning in three Superbowls, Bipolar Disorder, Abraham Lincoln, suffered from depression his entire life, but also had frequent anxiety attacks with burning eyes, headaches, indigestion and nausea. He was plagued by nightmares, visions and premonitions of his own death, Deceased Author Leo Tolstoy, Depression, Mike Wallace of 60 minutes, Depression, and more. Goergia O'Keefe, Roseanne barr, Tipper Gore aka (Al Gore's wife), Sir Isaac Newton everyone should know who he is, Carl Jung (famous for the Jung Institutes),Actor Jean Claude Van Damme, Bipolar, DecesasedJason Pollock the pioneer for expressionism art whose pieces sell for 18 million and more, Carrie Fisher, best known as Princess Leia in Star Wars, Bipolar Disorder, Barbara Bush - Former First Lady, Buzz Aldrin - Astronaut, second man to walk on Moon H,

9:41 lovely attempt at an answer but diversion is a classic britard tactic. Where again is the reference to Kaplan's one month statement? Phase in is clearly stated at talklivedaily and celebritysmackblog to name just a few. Now we will await your specific reference, okay?