The perennial black and white outfit, sunken eyes, stringy hair, and fishnets. Just right for shopping.

naah, Katie is not a baby machine like britbrit!! Probably she's still carrying a bit Suri-weight :)

Thank god she's not a skinnyfreak like Nicole! She looks healthy and female - and beautiful!!

so why isn't that huge ring on her wedding finger?

and yeah, she does have a reverse ass. i think that's the worst.

Kate doesn't have the nicest legs....anad that first pic....OMG what happened? She used to be beautiful! I guess Tom really is sucking the life out of her

She should NEVER wear fishnets, they only make her legs look chunky!

Why does she look so old in the face now? About a year ago, she was absolutely beautiful, now her face looks gaunt.

She didn't just have a baby #11:16, her and Chris Kleins daughter is 8 months old. She does look puffy, could be she's bloated.

Isabella is wearing ADORABLE shoes! so either she DOES have great taste, and isnt a complete tomboy, or her stepmom bought them for her!!

Katie is dressing so matronly, it's sad. This whole thing looks so forced, it's sad.

The one good thing? Katie still cares about the prices of things...she was checking the prices. She's not quite to where she justs points at what she wants (Hello Posh!)

She is still hot

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Katie used to be pretty girl, now she looks old, ok she's shopping without Tom so she can wears heels :)
Isabella looks bored. For Nicole yes it's sad she can't see her kids, they've been raised by scientologists, home-schooled by scientologists sad sad

I love Isabella! A normal healthy looking 13 yr. old girl. She looks like she could give a crap about shoe shopping!

She just had a baby you schmuks not everyone has a tummy tuck and has the "weight drop off" instantly. She's a normal woman getting over some normal post-pregnancy bulge, but you probably wouldn't know what a normal woman was if she hit you in the face with her handbag...

She so looks prego again! You can really see it in the clip.

Those fishnet socks are SO becoming when your calves look like tree trunks.

Isabella looks like she couldn't care less about looking at shoes. She looks tomboyish, and down-to-earth.

Katie has a reverse ass---it goes in instead of out. That means she's not getting any; she's not pumping the hips to the rhythm.......

i doubt she is pregnant again...weren't they just eating at that steakhouse before shopping?
she looks fine...and isabella looks bored out of her mind.
no soccer shoes at barneys...bummer.

I'm glad Katie has stepped up and taken the role of mom....Nicole who!?!?!?

I'm glad Katie has stepped up and taken the role of mom....Nicole who!?!?!?

I'm glad Katie has stepped up and taken the role of mom....Nicole who!?!?!?

Its comments like that that make celebrities have weight problems. They can never win if they are a normal weight they are pregnant or fat if they r skinny they have eating disorders!!!
She has just had a baby for gods sake!!!!

Its comments like that that make celebrities have weight problems. They can never win if they are a normal weight they are pregnant or fat if they r skinny they have eating disorders!!!
She has just had a baby for gods sake!!!!

Why is Nicole never with her kids? It's starting to look like a Michael Jackson situation, mom just gives the kids to dad and never looks back. WEIRD!

Also isn't Katie wearing her ring on the wrong hand? That huge engagment rock is shown on her right hand.

Bingo! She's preggers again. Didn't know that Mr. Cruise had a sperminating machine...

Nicole spends time with her children when she's allowed to. The scientologists can't be let out in "just any circumstance" or they might find out that their beliefs can be challenged by rational thought. For Nicole to see the kids, she has to have the scientologist handlers with her, and she has to try not to be an SP to them. Katie is learning their ways so it's ok for her to be with them.

The hand she runs across the wall is her "right" hand not her left.

that skirt is not flattering. And, she really does have thick legs....

Celebrities hold themselves up as ideals.... so it's ok to point out that they have the same imperfections as the rest of us.

She does not look well at all. Either Suri is still not sleeping through the night, she has horrible morning sicknes, or maybe she's just sick and stressed out, but she doesn't look good.

Her posture is terrible, probably from trying not to tower over Tom.

Poor Isabella having to go shopping with the evil stepmonster.

Nice gams Katie. Damn she is fug. What did Tom ever see in her besides a baby factory?

Isabella is probabaly embarrassed. She has been raised by two High Powered Stars and now she is hanging out with Dawsons Creek money. Poor kids.

Katie looks like crap same as when she was pregnant with Suri, she had crappy hair and etc.... And btw loose the fishnets honey!!

Isabella is wearing ADORABLE shoes! so either she DOES have great taste, and isnt a complete tomboy, or her stepmom bought them for her!!

Many woman (especially society types, which Kate isn't) switch their engagement ring to their right hand and wear a wedding band on their left.

We are all aware that they have money. Unlike common folk they don't need a large diamond on their left hand to prove self worth.

BTW Katie has large legs and is pigeoned toed. She is not know for having a good figure.

WHO are all those people following her AROUND???? WHY?????

Some of them probably work in the store just aching to get a commision...or they're her handlers! :)

Thank you for the ring explanation. I am a common girl and had no idea LOL

As far as Nicole not being able to see her kids outside the Scientology circle. Can you even imagine agreeing to this? My gosh not seeing my kids? Over my dead body!!!

Nicole has the media, so she could speak out about the grip the Scientology group have on her kids. She must not mind seeing them and that's sad.

Geezum you would think Tom, Katie and Nicole pay your bills. Silly people why the fighting?

She is all dressed up, yet she has no makeup and her hair is awful. WTF?! I agree that first picture is SCARY!

Katie is really playing up this fake mom crap!!! How come she was never hangin with the kids before Italy!!!! This is such bullshit it make me puke!!!!

Katie used to be pretty girl, now she looks old, ok she's shopping without Tom so she can wears heels :)
Isabella looks bored. For Nicole yes it's sad she can't see her kids, they've been raised by scientologists, home-schooled by scientologists sad sad

I think Katie looks uncomfortable. I find it very annoying when the sales assistants follow you around the shops I didn't realise they did the same to celebrity's.

I would love to have tom's money.

I'm scrapping up money just to buy a loaf of bread.

The first time I found these pictures on this site, I thought, wow, how sweet, both Isabella and connor have admitted to loving Katie, so anonymous, what is your problem, I think Katie looks good, she is the sweetest girl in hollywood, all your negativiy has taken the sweetness out of the whole thing, but thank you x17 for these, all of us Tomkat lovers appreciate them.

I say this is good bonding, watch out Nicole, you could lose the kids!!!

I think its ridiculus how if a famous female puts on weight the media wheels turn and they are pregnant. Shes not working and she just had a wedding and she just ate so she probably it a little bloated or packed on a few pounds GEEZ! lay off of the pregnancy rumors!

Good for Katie to go and do "normalish" things with Isabella, but how come we never see her doing "normalish ish" things with Suri?! Would it have been that difficult to take the baby to lunch and shopping WITH them?

Also Katie looks like crap...really shouldn't alert the paps, if you are going to be looking like death warmed over.

Nicole sees her kids, she and Tom have joint custody of Connor and Isabelle. Six weeks with her and six weeks with him. The photogs are taking pictures of Tom and Katie and whom ever happens to be with them thus lots of pictures of Tom and Nicole's kids.

Anyone ever think that it is Nicole's fault she doesn't see her kids and not Scientology or Tom? She is too busy with her rehab husband to deal with kids and he would be a bad role model for them.

She never seemed like that great of a mom anyway. The kids were adopted and maybe Tom is the one who wanted kids not her. You don't see her pregnant do you? She's not a kid person. Deal with it.

Katie's got the DEAD-EYEs....

why is she checking out a price on one pair??? It's not like she can't afford them

katie just has really bad posture , if she would put her shoulders back she would not look like she has a belly

F YOU BITCH!!! YOU THINK ANYONE WHO DOESN'T SPREAD THEIR LEGS & HAVE A BABY ISN'T A KID PERSON!!! I GUESS EVERY MAN IS THE WORLD ISN'T A KID PERSON EITHER!! BJ YOUR JUST A FOOL! TOM OWNED THOSE KIDS FROM DAY ONE & NIC WAS JUST FOR SHOW! JSUT LIKE KATIE!!! BESIDES HE DIDN'T GET HER PREG EITHER!

NO IT'S BEEN TOM'S FAULT THE WHOLE TIME! EVRYTHING HE DOES HAS TO DO WITH THATS CULT & HE KEEPS THOSE KID WRAPPED UP SO TIGHT THEY PROBABLY DON'T HAVE A FREE THOUGHT IN THEIR HEADS. NIC WAS TOO HAR TO CONTROL & KATIE WILL DO AS SHE'S TOLD THAT ALL THERE IS TO IT!!

Looks to me like Katie found out on that honeymoon what we already know!!!
He's just not that into her!!!!

Did you all hear Bella say to the sales person about how she HATES shopping with her stepmonster? SO totally FUNNY!

gees i ghate to say this, but she really has CANKLES! arrrgghhh...

does anyone know if nicole has even seen 'her' two children since tom and katie started dating? i dont remember reading anything about that. it seems like she was never really into them and only had them for tom's image, but now she is free. i wonder if she was ever listed on the birth cert. as their mother? or did tom just own them? seems weird she is never with them. anybody know?

not to be rude, but that kid has no neck. i noticed it in the wedding pictures too. it looks weird. i am sure she's lovely though, so no offense intended, just an observation. i thought maybe tom had adopted a kid with a handicap?

she looks great. Leave the poor woman alone.

Katie needs to brush out that rats nest on her head. It totally looks like she just rolled out of bed and threw on some clothes. Someone send her a straightener.

Katie looks a bit tired, but there's nothing wrong with that.

Glad to see she is spending time with Bella. Nicole seems way too busy with her endless stream of movies, her addicted husband and living in Nashville. I doubt she sees much of her kids.

Nicole is a baron, botoxed hag. Why do you think her only kids are adopted?

isabella looks real juicy

too bad they disabled right clicks, they were going to go into my pictures folder.Anybody have a solution?

wow, a lot of these comments are so mean. She is a new mom with a newborn baby. Of course she is going to have circles under her eyes and look tired! Most babies do not sleep through the night for a while so I don't why you people would expect hers to. My baby who is one still doesn't sleep through the night EVERY night. Plus, at least she is taking care of Suri instead of some nanny. Also, anyone who read up on Tom and Nicoles marriage when they were together would know how adament Nicole is to keep her children OUT of the spotlight. Think about it, we only really started seeing pics of Conner and Isabella when Tom and Nicole divorced but mostly when he started dating Katie. so Nicole does see her children, she just doesn't make a spectacle about it. And I can't blame her for that.

Anyone ever think that it is Nicole's fault she doesn't see her kids and not Scientology or Tom? She is too busy with her rehab husband to deal with kids and he would be a bad role model for them.

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I'm sorry, but I think that too.

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I think its ridiculus how if a famous female puts on weight the media wheels turn and they are pregnant.
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I totally agree! If they have some weight they're called 'fat', if they haven't they're called 'anorexic', if they have a little weight more they say they're pregnant (as jennifer garner)!

They're not forced to be always perfect just because they are celebrities, they are human!

Somebody please give her a brush!!
ANd no I don't thinks she is preggers again.. leftover baby bump..

The first time I found these pictures on this site, I thought, wow, how sweet, both Isabella and connor have admitted to loving Katie, so anonymous, what is your problem, I think Katie looks good, she is the sweetest girl in hollywood, all your negativiy has taken the sweetness out of the whole thing, but thank you x17 for these, all of us Tomkat lovers appreciate them.

I say this is good bonding, watch out Nicole, you could lose the kids!!!

Katie does not take care of her baby! How stupid are you to think these people don't have a staff! She is not a "NEW MOM" Suri is way past "newborn" she's had time to get thin, plan million dollar parties out of the country & travel all over the world! She is almost NEVER seen with this baby. Unless Tom wants the pub. So if they don't have help is the baby in her purse!?!?!?!? Get a clue Anonymous 2:44pm Katie is turning out to be one of the worst celeb moms!

you can still drag and drop the pics....so if you open a new explorer window and drag the pic into it, it will open and you can save it from there. it's something x17 should work on because people steal their pictures. also nicole had the kids for her wedding, they spent time with her in australia. i'm sure she's seen them frequently, but as someone pointed out, she's not camera happy like tom and katie (sorry...kate)

Katie looks to me like she had NO INTEREST in being out shopping with this kid. She's looks like she's wondering if Tom's gay lover get's bord when Tom's hanging out with her like she is today.

Admitted to loving Katie...Nicole watch out? God, get a grip. I've never read or seen those kids say anything to the media, and any secondary quote is just heresay. A few months back TMZ posted a bunch of pictures of Nicole and Isabella shopping, and Isabella's expressions are much different.

Katie's not pregnant. That's just the pouch the last ALIEN baby crawled out of! FREAKS!

Nicole is smart enough not use use her kids for publicity stunts.

And poor Katie, did she loose her comb...?

Why are there so many repeated posts? I think someone's either posting under multiple names, or an inordinate amount of idiots happen to be interested in Katie Holmes.

About Katie, she looks like hell and needs to do something with those baby bangs. She's totally grossing me out.

I notice she goes out of her way to drag her hand all over the walls so the photg's can get a pic of her ring. She's such a faker! All she really cares about is ALL the money she has & ALL the attention she gets. She just plan trailer trash. Tom bought her because she was able to be bought! She always wanted to be famous & now she is. But just for being a whore!

"Why are there so many repeated posts"
I don't see anything repeated!?!?!? If you mean how come so many people don't like Katie you'd have to take that up with Tom. He caused it.

I am sorry I don't agree that Katie looks like hell,she does look good! but then again many people on this site have serious issues, am glad these people are leading their lives and don't get to read all this trash, ever thought that may be you are all losers because of your negative attitudes. the one area I disagree with Mr Cruise is on ant- depressants, if he read this thread am sure he would change his mind, most people here need to get medication for their bitterness and bad lives where they sit on a computer for hours hating strangers who are happier than them. what kind of life is that, to spend all your time posting in different names, same comments day in day out!Stop boring us to tears.

Who cares about her ass and her legs and what she is wearing! This girl's career is over, The sad thing is that I don't think you knows it yet. Look at her eyes and face, the stress is evident! Her marriage(relationship) with Tom and his religious heirarchy is going to be much more then she bargained for! She is a captive of disillusionment that is being perpetrated by a control freak!! I'm sorry to say the worst is yet to come!

Who cares about her ass and her legs and what she is wearing! This girl's career is over, The sad thing is that I don't think you knows it yet. Look at her eyes and face, the stress is evident! Her marriage(relationship) with Tom and his religious heirarchy is going to be much more then she bargained for! She is a captive of disillusionment that is being perpetrated by a control freak!! I'm sorry to say the worst is yet to come!

Thank God there are still decent modest simple conservative women in this earth unlike too many today in Hollywood and everywhere looking like tramps or try hard teens.

What a strangely vitriolic post condemning vitriol. What a funny little ironic person you are.

i luv isabella i think she is the cutest thing
she is completely normal for being raised by her parents
i absolutely love her shoes too! she is the sporty girl & she is built like an athelete i am aswel. she is so cute

I remember those TMZ photos. Isabella looked so happy in them smiling and having fun with her mom... nothing like these uncomfortable pics.

And what´s with the fishnet stockings... :

Bear in mind that when nicole went to shop with Bella (if she did) they were not mobbed by photogs, it kind of makes it uncomfortable for Bella. Check out pictures on Katieholmes.com those two look like they have a great time shopping and if it bothers you, stuff it.

Dear x17!

Where are the videos and pics of the wedding bash?
How disappointing.

WTG Katie!!!
God bless TomKat!!!

Katie has a gut on her and Isabella isn't shopping she is Katies tag along. Basically she's Katie's Bitch.

OMG, I totally get the joke now. At first I was all like this Leah chick is crazy but obviously you're mocking head clam sycophant Leah Remini. so funny and mad props.

not to be rude, but that kid has no neck. i noticed it in the wedding pictures too. it looks weird. i am sure she's lovely though, so no offense intended, just an observation. i thought maybe tom had adopted a kid with a handicap?

Since when having a short neck is an handicap??

like if she had some sort of spinal issue like down syndrome, klieppel fiel or mucopolysaccharidoses

They look very uncomfortable together which says to me that they don't spend very much time together. I still say they live at the Scientology Center. No one seems to know exactly where they(Bella, and Conner) do live live.

Somebody gets clothes etc for them somewhere.

How funny Leah...You've already seen pic's on Katies OWN site!!!!! And you still think these mommy & me outings are NOT STAGED! Your a dope. This whole thing is a *ucking joke!

What a nightmare!

You're every public move and look photographed and criticized.

Holy crap, she looks gaunt!

Stop hanging out with psycho Victoria Anorexic Beckham NOW!

I feel bad for Isabella, she doesn't look very excited. I hate to say this, but Katie looks like crap...

Good video x17, nice job!!

boy does she ever look good (not) looks a little tired tom must be shagging her relentlessly( oh I forgot he's gay). what the fuck

Must be nice to have the store stay open for them..she must spend alot of money in there. Katie looks Great!

katieholmes.com is a fansite,not official,and in no way affiliated with Katie!

Katie's parents need to kidnap her & take her to a deprogrammer & snap her out of this fog!

I think Katie has to be pregnant, her belly sticks out oddly , not like she’s fat, but like when someone is pregnant. You can't really tell in these pictures, but in katieholmes.com you can really see it. That’s how my pouch stuck out when I was about 4 months pregnant

i dont check the price not cos o cant afford something but i want to see if its worth it....

Katie looks like a young Jackie Onassis. Where's the boat?

I don't even LIKE Jackie O & I think that's an insult to Jackie! Even thought they BOTH look the other way while their "husband" bangs someone else!

I am starting to think now that Nicole Kidman has signed over her rights to parenthood of isabella and connor to Tom Cruise, she never ever sees them. What if Tom paid Nicole to get her name off the kids adoption certificates? And Nicole was silenced against ever making this information public? Just a thought...
JoE

Every one likes a conspiracy, it definately makes life much more interesting, if Nicole signed away her rights........ I think she sees the kids but she has been having problems lately with Keith in rehab and all. And now that they have four parents, there is nothing to worry about.

Leah Remini

Lets wait and see if she'll be the new nicole...

After looking at katieholmes.com pics.. I think she IS pregnant. She's skinny everywhere else.

Time will tell.

If that's not an 'official site" than how did they get all those posed pic & permission to use them??? Tom would pull the plug on that thing if he didn't like it.

Do you mean Nicole Richie???? Because she WILL NEVER BE GOOD ENOUGH TO BE THE DIRT ON KIDMANS SHOES!

Wow. This is a woman who doesn't know to $hit unless someone tells her to. She does not interact with Bella AT ALL. The video the other day at the soccer match, she is just a dog on a leash. She does not know who she is or what she's supposed to be. Be prepared for a HUGE meltdown.

It's obvious from the way she carries herself that she has no pride, no self esteem. She radiates nothing but lack of sureity (is that a word?). No confidence.

Sick. sick. sick.

Isabella said that Katie wants to be JUST like her Mom, Nicole.

I am starting to think now that Nicole Kidman has signed over her rights to parenthood of isabella and connor to Tom Cruise, she never ever sees them. What if Tom paid Nicole to get her name off the kids adoption certificates? And Nicole was silenced against ever making this information public? Just a thought...
JoE

Tom keeps EVERYONE from ever saying anything. With lawyers! Katie & Nic know that far too well!!!

shes to thin. gross. but i do see a itsy bitsy bump on her tummy.

so Frank...are you on the payroll?? Cause the kids Jim Jones sent to school seemed well raised too! CRAZY!!!!

What a classy gracious lady this Katie is. Tom is a very lucky man.
I salute this family too for keeping their family together; the happiness and quality time. The kids are raised well opposed to many out of control spoiled kids in America these days.

I wonder if Tom is going to a sporting goods store with his step son Conor next? Thanks X17 for the Video and pix.

I just wish that fugly ugly bitch would either brush her f'n hair or cut that mess of.
And it takes more to be a step mom than just be the current wife of a kids father, Tom with ditch Katie when he is done with her, Tom is a loser who only cares for himself!
Stay tuned those kid will have a new step mommy in a few years, this one will probably be nearly Balla's age, Tom is turning into just another Hoolywood dirty old man.

I think katie is a sweet lady..well at least she behaves like one. She looks fine and she's also approachable.

WHY WE NEVER SEE NIKOL KIDMAN WITH HER CHILDRENS?

Katie ignores Bella pretty much the whole time with Bella trailing behind her like a lost puppy. How un-natural and uncomfortable! They are not bonding at all and Bella looks bored to death with the i-wish-i-wasn't-here look on her face. My guess is daddy Tom is not happy with Bella's tomboy ways and has ordered Bella to spend a little girly time with Katie so that Katie can teach Bella how to dress and act (i.e. shop all day long!) like a proper 'Beverly Hills Lady'.

It's obvious from the way she carries herself that she has no pride, no self esteem. She radiates nothing but lack of sureity (is that a word?). No confidence.

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Maybe because everytime she goes out people do bad comments like the ones here, everyone would be unsure after this kind of attack!

Katie is a very good wife, mother and stepmother to bella and conner. Katie is a very nice and lovely person outside and inside.

Katie looks a little haggard in the first photo. Perhaps Suri was keeping her up late, or she was getting it from the GMD via a turkey baster?
Isabella looks like she could go lesbo? Nick is so NOT a mum! She could care less- she's more of a botox whore who really should just admit that she's still a cold, ice woman that's NEVER had sex or taken a shit.

Are they the only ones in the store? What was it after-hours? And what about that third woman trailing them in the vid- who is she? Katie's stuck-on scientology "handler"? What a waste this whole circus of loonies are...(excluding Isabella- she after all is only a young girl)

Some of you people are so judgmental! Believe me, I think Tom Cruise is a freak, but how can you say Katie looks pregs again. To me, she looks too skinny and her face seems like she's sad. I hope she is as happy as she wants people to believe she is.

Bella is lucky she doesn’t have their genes! As parents Tomkat should not use her for their own ‘we are the perfect family’ image/publicity ploy. She is only a teen kid, and teenagers are mentally fragile at that age. All this media attention cannot be good for her. So Tomkat leave her out of it! Leave her alone for god sakes!!

Katie is a very good wife, mother and stepmother to bella and conner. Katie is a very nice and lovely person outside and inside.

Katie is a very good wife, mother and stepmother to bella and conner. Katie is a very nice and lovely person outside and inside.

my baby will be one in march and I still have some tummy to get rid of it is really hard to get it off the 1st year my doc told me it took 9 month to gain and to give it 9 months or so to loose the weight

pigeon toed and knocked knees, what a hag

I agree they seem like really great parents always with their children!

Definitely a Scientology handler walking around with her... she is way to skanky looking for a Barnies Employee. See her outfit?

Notice how she motions for Katie to shake someone's hand and when Katie is done she motions for Isabelle to shake the person's hand. As if Katie couldn't decide that on her own. Totally weird.

Are they the only ones in the store? What was it after-hours? And what about that third woman trailing them in the vid- who is she? Katie's stuck-on scientology "handler"? What a waste this whole circus of loonies are...(excluding Isabella- she after all is only a young girl)

What has happened to Katie? She is no longer the fresh-faced young bouncy and full of life Katie we used to know pre-Tom. She is washed out, and looks miserable and lifeless. She walks hunched over like a old lady. Her hair looks a mess, she takes no pride in her appearance. WFT is Tom doing to her with that scientology crap? She has never looked so bad. She is at her worse so far.

I think she looks absolutely amazing! Love the outfit and especially in the second pic she just looks great! She doesn't have fat legs! I can't believe everyone here seems to think so!

I adore Katie Holmes. I think she is beautiful. However, she does look really worn out. Take a good look, that's the face of a tired (crying baby) and severely depressed(Tom)woman. How could anyone be happy being married to that hideous, arrogant, psychologically challenged, scientology believing, ass? Oh, wait, they can't. As for Katie never having her baby, that bugs me, but maybe Tom does the breastfeeding. He does have some nice boobs. LOL. He begged Katie to marry him so everyone wouldn't find out that he had Xenu's baby!

Katie looks lifeless because Tom & the CULT have sucked the life out of her. That's what programming does to a person. Everything they do IS just like things you see in documentary's about the inside life of a cult. Katie has yet to prove her complete devotion to them so she WILL NOT be left alone. She is involved in one way or another with one of their MOST FAMOUS representatives & they WILL NOT allow a problem. She is being beaten down 24/7. Her mind & free thoughts are being sucked out of her! They have separated her from family & friends that she has trusted for years. People who have rescued their loved ones from cults describe the same blank faces & changes in appearance. They say their family members have lost their self esteem & personality. Just the way you all describe what you see in Katie. Let's not forget HOW QUICKLY she was in classes & reaching new levels in this cult. How almost IMMEDIATELY she was taken out of the country & away from EVERYONE she knew. In the beginning people close to her said she would never have just cut them off, but now. Most of, if not ALL of those people are OUT OF HER LIFE! She had HARDLY EVEN known Tom other than the way we all do from his movies, but yet she was doing whatever he said & wanted. Than she got preg & they announced he would marry her. Lets not forget ALL the other woman he 'interviewed" the day he met Katie. For a movie role that clearly DID NOT exist! They ALL fit the same description. Aprox age, colorings, & at one time or another made comments about liking/loving Tom. & dreaming about being with him. And they all had to sign confidentiality agreements before showing up to meet with him & his people. Jennifer Love hewitt was one of the other girls & she has ALWAYS acted very strange WHENEVER asked about what went on. She know they WILL sue her. I believe people would be shocked to find about the REAL TRUTH about this business deal & I think Katie will be ruined by the whole thing. Mentally, physical & emotionally. But I'm sure Tom & his Lawyers have made sure she has signed an IRON CLAD agreement that will keep her from EVER saying a word. We believe this is the REAL reason she was having problems with her family. Her dad is a lawyer & either didn't want her to sign or was not allowed to see the papers before she signed them. No matter what Tom says, it is CLEAR the parents were NOT HAPPY with this after the initial shock wore off that Katie was dating "Tom Cruise" the star. I was a huge fan of his, but his actions have changed my opinion of him forever.

The reason Katies hair is such a mess is from her standing on her head so much lately.

I heard that toms cousin "donated" and then using a turkey baster and head stand, Katie has become pregnant again. I heard they used the cousin so incase someone got a hold of DNA there would be a match.

This staged shopping trip with Isabella is just pathetic, body language between both of them tells all, I can see Isabella keeping her hands in her pockets body language tells all, hahha honestly I feel bad for this child...also Katie looks 4 going to 5 mos. pregnant, (we know is not the midget's) watch them announce she pregnant pretty soon, and yes I belive they have used Tom's relative sperm to get her pregnant

she looks really wiped out....gone....
so sad to see the change in her, what the cult has done to her.....the fame and money just can't be worth THAT much...our government needs to revoke the "church's" tax exempt status and really start investigating this cult....it has ruined so many lives and we are seeing another one's life destroyed bit by bit right in front of us.....freakshow.

Annonymous 10:09, I agree with you 100%.

straight up dat ho knocked up. if not, well damn, somebody need to get ole girl to a toilet, quick.

This staged shopping trip with Isabella is just pathetic, body language between both of them tells all, I can see Isabella keeping her hands in her pockets body language tells all, honestly I feel bad for this child...also Katie looks 4 going to 5 mos. pregnant, (we know is not the midget's) watch them announce she pregnant pretty soon, and yes I belive they have used Tom's relative sperm to get her pregnant

Katie looks great and not bone thin. The little girl looks happy. Tom and Katie look like they are in love. Most of you peole just have no life and like to run down everyone. I would love to see some of you people that run all the famouse people down. I bet you look GREAT, not.

I don't know how much contact Nicole has with her children, but they still consider her their mom. My stepbrother's team played against Connor's and TomKat were walking through, posing for pics, and he was signing for the kids (she doesn't sign). After they walked past my stepbrother said, "Tell your mom and dad thanks!"

And Connor replied, "That isn't my mom."

Kaite has to do soemthing with her legs or she should just hide them for good!

She looks boring for sure , she does not show her vagina. We want to see trashy, nowadays that is what we call class.

Annonymous 10:09, I agree with you 100%.

Katie is dressing all nice and classic, so different from before. I hope it's not because Tom wants her to have a "good wife+perfect mom" image. If Tom really demands her to dress this way, Tom can you also ask her to brush her hair in the morning?

Please,... poor child Isabella looks totally uncomfortable as if she was forced to go shopping with haggard looking Katie for a photo op...body language on this child does not lie!

That is true, December 13, 2006 3:40 PM
Posted by: Anonymous

And people in LOVE do NOT drop their life time closest friends.
If the new significant other does not like your already best friends, then they do not love you.

Katie has been forced by tom and the cult to have all new "friends". That is NOT love and happiness.

We don't want her to be trashy! Not at all. But money doesn't by class. She needs to grow up & carry herself like an adult. They think putting her in expensive cloths will make her look like & act like a lady but it doesn't work. She had never even heard of most of the designers she's wearing now. And she couldn't afford them.

Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't, if she smiles, she is a zombie under a spell and is only acting. if she doesn't she is very unhappy and looks horrible, if she wears jeans, she has no style, if she wears a skirt or designer clothes, she thinks she is Jackie 0.

If she is with Suri, she is using her child for publicity, if she is not with her, she is neglecting her, this girl can't win, this is the happiest I have seen her in years, we all have our bad days, you get one picture which is not the best and pour out your hate on it, people get a life, that girl is much happier than all of you, money doesn't buy happiness but poor people like you scare me more, because poverty and hate are a dangerous combination.

I have never seen a celebrity in tip top shape every time they leave their houses. Us ordinary people would like to believe these people are miserable in order to justify your own misery, I saw a whole range of pictures and Bella looked like she was out of place, and she would be since this was her first time, but enjoying the novelty of the experience.

Please don't blame your loser life styles on other people. I say she looks great and happy and she has it all, money wealth, a beautiful baby, a handsome husband, great step kids and a supportive family, what more can she ask for. Haters are gonna hate, but that is their loss, go out and find some happiness guys! You are seriously pathetic.

FITZ: Where did you come from??? Never seen your name before. Sounds like your one of the handlers. You also write as if you want us to think you know her.

1st. Being seen with your baby 2 or 3 timea when you hire the photog's IS a photo op. Other people are "caught" out with their kids. No ONE could even get a photo of them on Toms own prop.

2ed. Most 27 year old woman look good just because they're young. She looks beat down.

3ed. Most people madly in love, rich or poor who just got married have lots of sex & can't stop glowing. She looks just the opposite. She seems more in love with people on T.V. than she does in person with Tom. They want it to "appear" that they have a dream life, but looks like she's in prison.

Bella has been rich HER WHOLE LIFE!!!! She would not feel out of place shopping for expensive things! She is out of place with Katie! Bella knows nothing BUT the finer things in life. Whether that's good or bad I don't know, but it's a fact. She doesn't look like that because of the store!!!

great to see so many intelligent comments here, glad other ppl can tell these obviously brainwashed scientologists trying to redeem something from this freaky relationship.im sure they are paid to put these comments on all these sites!!!LOL

Wow,theres lots of Scientology plants here on this site.How much did they pay you guys to say all good things about gay Tom and his automaton trophy wife,hm?
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They are not paid to say nice things. They PAY to belong and they HOPE that by posting about TC they will move up a notch or two without having to pay more.

Sadly, they will not be rewarded for trying.

Wow,theres lots of Scientology plants here on this site.How much did they pay you guys to say all good things about gay Tom and his automaton trophy wife,hm?
Just recognize Scientology for what it is:
A huge money laundering cult created by a
drugged out hack sci-fi writer.Damn you
people are stupid!

Who was taking these photos?

First off Tom's marriages..SHAMS. Who was Nicole Kidman before??? She did him a favor so the world wouldn't know he was a GAY MAN!!! They adopted... hmmm did some one say GAY MAN?? Once she couldn't take the scientology freak thing he had to move on to a yes Woman Katie....Also, who was she before Tom? ...NO ONE. I doubt very highly that baby was made the good old fashioned way...WHY??? HELLO.... GAY MAN. Maybe she got knocked up by someone else. That's a thought.

What a hottie. Even with no makeup she's cute unlike other stars they're so old and freaky.
And the classier they are the more kinky they are.

6:14PM VERY TRUE!!!! You see that in alot of non mainstream groups. Like the Mormons

Oh crap!
Is Katie wearing a stupid pillow again, are we going to see her get big, small, big, small. for the next 12 month again.
Why doesn't she just adaopt the old fashion way,

Isabella is beautiful.

6:14PM VERY TRUE!!!! You see that in alot of non mainstream groups. Like the Mormons

December 13, 2006 9:40 PM
Posted by: Anonymous

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What???? How do you figure????
How much more mainstream can you get then a member of a Christian church??

Mormans are your typical everyday religious people. They are the ONLY RELIGION to be reconized in ALL four corners of the world.

she is really tall..i never think so when she starred in Dawson's Creek...

Katie is very disproportionate. Skinny from the waist up and chunky from the waist down. A skirt is not a good look for her as it accentuates the disproportionality of her body and puts the emphasize on her tree-truck legs. She should stick to jeans & trousers or wear longer dresses/skirts to cover thoses calves and get a new stylist to show her how to properly dress according to her body shape ans size.

It is true Bella has been rich all her life but please bear in mind that this is the first time photogs have chased her around while shopping and at her age, it is bound to be scary. I think bonding is good for these two , they seem like they get on well at the soccer games.Nicole says that Bella and connor do not like holding their hands while walking in public or treating them like kids.

Please stop insinuating that all of us who love this family are scientology handlers, we are not and since you hate this family for whatever reason, you are definately sadder than us who spread love.

Love Katie, she is beautiful, natural, and gracious. She defiantely did not look unhappy to me!I hope she is pregnant. Another Suri would not hurt!

God! No one seems to like this family for whatever reason. Everywhere i look, everything i read in the press, whether it be tabloid or respectable newspapers and reviews, they are always making fun or critising them. Now It has become the ‘normal’ thing to do to take pokes at Tom and Katie. Because of this, they have become a figure a ridicule worldwild. This has gone way too far in my opinion and this has to stop! I mean since when have Tom and Katie become the most hated couple in hollywood? This is too weird. Yes they are a bit over the top sometimes but they are celebrities and that’s what being a celebrity is all about. If you have it, flaunt it! But these two are being crucified alive. Why? Do you only imagine what effect this will have on their kids? Leave this family alone! It’s their life and they have a right to live it the way they want!

because we don't like being LIED to, and this is so SO obviously a LIE! You want to be in the limelight, this is part of the job - loved or hated...get used to it.

Why did x17online ask Katieholmes.com to remove the pics???

because of copyrights infringement!!

Most of the comments above are mean, hideous end evil. So much hatred for nothing! Maybe your reactions come from envy.

omg ! she looks so terrible! her face is just like bones! she looks very very bad! omg now she looks like she has an anorexia! when she was acting in dawson creek her body was well. but now she looks terrible skinny!

I wish everyone would stop paying Nicole out for not spending time with her kids. She actually does spend time with them but doesn't publicise the fact like Tom does when he takes over the show when watching the kids playing sport. He's a media freak.
And Katie Katie Katie, you poor girl. You look terrible. Raggedy hair, pale skin, black eyes. I'm sure thats the look Tom has really been trying you to have. If she is pregnant again I'm not sure why she was looking at some of those boots with heals, they would be SOO comfortable for a pregnant woman, NOT.

My home is very close to Nicole Kidmans LA home and I can tell you Nicole spends a lot of time with her children. And the children call her mom.

I think Tom Cruise is a closet gay. Suri is Chris Klein's kid. Katie looks like shit. I can't wait to watch this marriage fall apart.

1.I think Katie needs to fix her hair and make it stark straight like she used to do.

2. I think Bella is starting to look a bit more girl and not so tomboyish.

3.I hope they don't have another kid again just yet. I hope they wait atleast 5 years.

I feel sorry for them because they always get ridiculed for every single thing they do, and I don't think Katie or Suri should be ridiculed at all!I think you jerks need to leave Katie and Suri alone! If you want to bash Tom, then go ahead because you obviously think he did something terribly wrong that needs bashing for.Don't go bashing him just because he is short or because you think he needs a hair cut or is getting fat.Try to find something substantial, like that you don't agree his views on drugs!

shes naturally beautiful and anyone with a clue can tell what a sweet and genuine person she is. i say give her a break... I bet she still looks better than all of you!

It's probably called BLOATING. Most women experience it once a month...doesn't means she's pregnant! She's still young and so is baby Suri! Some of these pictures aren't exactly flattering of her either.

well if it's just BLOATING then why does she choose to dress in a skin tight skirt like that at that time of the month. Oh and that makes even more sense to wear a white skirt when the rest of the time she is wearing black.

and one more thing while I'm here... Katie get your hair brushed or cut off.

Katie,

I love you.

Terence

Tom can't care less about what you losers think
he is the winner of box office this year again, N°1 again, with more than 400M$, a great deal, more than Hanks one, after he refused paramount offer

katie look shit because of you fuckers and all your stupid insult and the paparrazzi
but Tom suffer from your shit more, but he is strong

Suri is his copy look alike

FU and find a job

Why: Where have you been for the past 2 years!?!?!?!? They are why they are hated! Their actions are why people don't like them. Tom brought ALL THIS ON HIMSELF!!! So he gets to deal with the fall out of his actions!

Suri probably IS Tom's they were in france, so I think she is part Clone part Katie's egg. Not sure if she carried the little alien, or she was grown in a jar, but I bet she's got his DNA. :-)

dear me most of the peolpe above seriously need to find something to do in their lives, because so much bullshit pours out in their writing that themselves must be covered with it. Very shocking! Why the hell do they look at this site in the first place, if it's just to pour their filthly, stupid remarks on sweet Katie Holmes

dear me most of the peolpe above seriously need to find something to do in their lives, because so much bullshit pours out in their writing that themselves must be covered with it. Very shocking! Why the hell do they look at this site in the first place, if it's just to pour their filthly, stupid remarks on sweet Katie Holmes

"WHY" I'll tell you why they're ridiculed, because they deserve it. Tom Cruises arrogance is catastrophic, and he brought ALL OF THIS on himself. This "relationship" with Katie is the most absurd Hollywood has seen since Liza and David
HE IS GAY
HE IS STERILE
HE BELONGS TO A CULT
HE INTERVIEWED YOUNG STARS TO BE HIS BEARD/WIFE
HE INSULTED THE ENTIRE MEDICAL COMMUNITY AND EVERY WOMAN WHO HAS EVER SUFFERED PPD

He is a reprehensible huuman being, PERIOD

And another thing, you want to talk about how his children are affected....lets talk about how they are affected by the fact that their father had a girl, 14 years younger than him, who was knocked up, living at their house. Lets talk about how their affected by their father making out with Katie at all their games, in front of all their friends
It's disgusting

WAY TO GO Libraesque!!!!
Slam that bastard! Tom thinks he's SUCH a great dad, but he let his kids believe he was having sex with some young chick & knocked her up & DIDN'T keep it a secret & marry her BEFORE anyone knew. They went public because ALL TOM WANTED WAS A BABY!!! ANYWAY HE COULD GET IT! HE DIDN'T PRETEND TO MARRY HER UNTIL THE BABY WENT PUBLIC & WAS HEALTHY. HE WANTED THE DEAL TO GO THRU BEFORE HE WOULD MAKE AN HONEST WOMAN OUT OF KATIE! People STILL can't find proof that they are LEGALLY MARRIED! It's just their word. Which means nothing. When people figured out the Italy thing was fake his people said they would get married in the USA when they got back from the honeymoon. Than days later the media said his people said they HAD married in the US BEFORE they went to Italy. So EVEN HIS OWN PEOPLE DON"T KNOW IF THEY"RE REALLY MARRIED! This whole thing is nothing by an acting job for them both. Maybe she will have another kid for him, the 1st has made her a fortune! Just like it did for that crazy lady who sold her kids to Michael Jackson.

you know she's better off if they aren't married, as far as the kid goes. Seeing as how it isn't his biologically AND if they're not married she should have no problem when, not if, she leaves him
I'm part of the huge percentage of people who thinks the kid is Josh Hartnetts. My theory is she was a virgin while she was with Chris K., then he broke her heart and she did a revenge fuck with Josh and got pregnant, just didn't know it when she started dating the douchebag after her interview with him. I find the timing of Josh's break-up with ScarJo very curious........just my own personal theory

Diana, what's your point??

Annonymous, I'm a loser huh? Why, what don't you agree on that I've stated? get a name and lets discuss

" Mormans are your typical everyday religious people" 12:48am

If mormons are "typical Christians" this planet is in MORE TROUBLE THAN WE ALL THINK!!!

Mormons are ALSO a secret society & have ritualistic meetings & brainwash their members. This "religion" was created by 2 fakes who wanted to screw a bunch of other peoples wives. The Mormon "religion" has only been around for a short time. Up until about 20 years ago they would not allow blacks to join because they see them as being marked by the devil. AND STILL DO. But, of course ALL THAT changed when they realized black people were willing to give them 20% of their total income BEFORE TAXES, just like the bunch of stupid white people have done for over 100 years. They still see blacks as beneath them, but take their money anyway. The MORMONS ARE THE LARGEST CULT ON THE PLANET FOLLOWED BY TOMS GROUP THE ALIEN WATCHERS. They go after weak minded people, a lot of which are in prison looking for ways to get out, & joining a fake church is the best way. Another way is going to 3ed world countries with alot of false promises. They use naive children to baptize the DEAD in order to make their ranks seem even larger than they really are. But many believe there is a much more sinister reason for this ritual. They have NO RESPECT FOR WOMAN & treat them like 2ed class citizens & raise their sons to continue this abuse. They believe their men will die & each have their own PLANET full of hundreds of woman to propagate with! Unfortunately many of our politicians are mormon & the church has stated publicly on many occasions that they intend on being in charge of this country. So for those of you constantly throwing the race card around because people don't like illegal aliens, maybe you should take a serious look at the mormons & learn what racism is REALLY about. That is about as close to crazy as you can get with out being Tom Cruise.

Oh and by the way...Just because a bunch of people do something, that doesn't make it right or moral. There are gangs & mob organizations in all 4 parts of the world too!! Being "recognized in ALL four corners of the world." Doesn't make you special or in anyway honest!

How come when you "fans" hear the truth & have facts read back to you, you blame the people telling you the facts! libraesque has a clear & concise point of view. That doesn't have ANYTHING to do with being 'mad" or needing "medical help" If you have a REAL opinion than lets hear it. That's what we're here for!

Well, she did get stretchmarks as I remember seeing pictures of that everywhere.

Anon 2:46 thanks! My guess is that person is a $cientologist. I can ALWAYS tell them on these boards. They will inevitably call people losers, tell them "go take some anti-depressants", etc. and will ALWAYS mention how jealous everyone is because Tom and Katie have it all because they're rich. The lower level $cienos are VERY impressed with money

no doubt libraesque is totally mad and needs some urgent medical help.You poor poor loser

libraesque, you are SO right!! Whenever anyone points out FACTS about tomkat, ie.,
"They are always kissing at the park",
"They never bring Suri to the park to see the soccor games"
"Katie never takes Syri with her on her DAILY shopping trips"

These are ALL TRUE FACT and the paps have printed pictures as proof. But yet when we bring it up, we are "jealous" that tom and katie are "rich". HAHAHAHAHA

like these scieno freaks really know how much money WE really have!!

We are OBVIOUSLY rich enouch to have wifi and not have to work, since we are always on the net!!!LOL

Anon 2:46 thanks! My guess is that person is a $cientologist. I can ALWAYS tell them on these boards. They will inevitably call people losers, tell them "go take some anti-depressants", etc. and will ALWAYS mention how jealous everyone is because Tom and Katie have it all because they're rich. The lower level $cienos are VERY impressed with money

December 15, 2006 2:39 PM
Posted by: Anonymous
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You are WAAAAAYYY off with what you spew re the LDS church.
African Americans have ALWAYS been able to be baptized members of the church.
The Lord only asks for 10% in tithing. That is the same with any religion.
You say Mormaons go after the weak minded?
You mean that
J. Willard Marriott (founder Marriott Hotels),
Brett Keller (CEO, Priceline),
Jim Jannard (CEO Founder, Oakley),
David Neeleman (CEO Jetblue Air),
Dieter F. Uchtdorf (senior vice president, Lufthansa German Airlines),
J. Ralph Atkin (founder, SkyWest Airlines)
Donny Osmond,
Gladys Knight,
Sen Harry Reid (D) Nevada
just to name a few a few, are ALL WEAK mined people that only know how to follow?
The LDS church is the ONLY church that allows ALL mankind to be LEADERS in their church. How is THAT racists?

The LDS church does NOT allow anyone in prison to become a member of the church. Therefore they DO NOT "go after" prisoners.

Women are held to the highest reguard in the LDS church. I suggest you NOT mess with the women.

OH and you state "many of our politicians are mormon & the church has stated publicly on many occasions that they intend on being in charge of this country."
PROVE WHERE THAT WAS STATED BY THE CHURCH!
And just WHO are all of these politicians that are Morman?

Katie looks like CRAPOLA...Why on earth would someone get all dressed up, then not bother with makeup or doing something with the hair?!

I KNOW the TRUTH! 6:35PM

THAT IS A LIE!!!! AND BY THE WAY YOU WRITE YOU ARE A MORMON & YOU KNOW YOU ARE LYING!!! MY HUSBANDS FAMILY GOES ALL THEY WAY BACK TO THE BASTARDS THAT STARTED THIS & I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!! WE DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO INFORM PEOPLE ABOUT THIS CULT BECAUSE HE IS ASHAMED OF WHAT HIS ANCESTORS HAVE DONE!!! THE MORMONS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ANTI BLACK & MOST STILL ARE! UNLESS OF COURSE THEY ARE NOW THE "NEW BLACK" MORMONS. WHO BELIEVE THEY HAVE THIS LIFE TO MAKE UP FOR BEING DAMMED & BEING MADE BLACK !

YOU CLAIM YOU KNOW THE TRUTH THAN TELL IT!!!!! BREAK YOUR VOW OF SILENCE TO THE "OUTSIDERS"

EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID IS AN UTTER FALSEHOOD!

YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A DEVIL WORSHIPPER! AND IF YOU ARE A TEMPLE CARD HOLDER YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN!!!

IT IS CLEAR YOU ARE A FOLLOWER. SO YOU KNOW THEY ALSO GO AFTER MONEY & LIKE TOM THEY USE THEIR INFLUENCE TO GET AHEAD. DON'T TRY TO PLAY GAMES & SAY BEING MORMON IS O.K. BECAUSE A FEW RICH PEOPLE ARE MORMON! AND DON'T YOU DARE SAY THEY MORMONS DON'T GO AFTER THE WEAK & POOR BECAUSE YOU ARE LYING AGAIN!! THE PRISONS ARE FULL OF MORMON CONVERTS.

"The Lord only asks for 10% in tithing" THE LORD DOESN'T ASK FOR ANY MONEY! THE MORMONS ASK FOR MONEY! STANDARD "TITHING" FOR MORMONS IS 20% FOR ANY MORMON WITH A JOB, UNLESS THE AMOUNT IS CHANGED IN WRITING BY YOUR INDIVIDUAL BISHOP. AFTER A ONE ON ONE MEETING WHERE YOU GET TO EXPLAIN WHY YOU CAN'T PAY AS MUCH AS THE OTHERS.

IT IS ALSO CLEAR BY YOUR LIST OF ''RICH MORMONS" THAT YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD TO BELIEVE THAT THE "CHURCH" MADE THAT HAPPEN FOR THEM. AND THAT YOU TOO ARE IMPORTANT FOR BEING IN THE SAME GROUP. SOUNDS JUST LIKE WHAT THE SCIENTOLOGIST SAY. JOIN BE LIKE TOM! YOU PROVE MY POINT YET AGAIN ABOUT THE 2 CULTS BEING ALIKE.

HARRY REID IS A PIECE OF CRAP & A THIEF! I HAVE KNOWN HIS FAMILY SINCE I WAS A CHILD & MOST OF WHAT HE SAYS IS A LIE. PLUS YOU PROVE THE POINT ABOUT MORMONS GRABBING POWER! HARRY REID IS THE WORST THING TO HAPPEN TO NEVADA & ALL HE EVER CARED ABOUT WAS GOING HIRER IN THE CHURCH (JUST LIKE TOM) & MAKING MORE MONEY! HE HAS BEEN ONE OF THE WORST POLITICIANS THE STATE HAS EVER HAD, BUT WITH EVERY MORMON VOTING FOR HIM HE'S A SHOE IN! DON'T BE A DICK & ACT LIKE NO *UCKING RICH PEOPLE WOULD BE MORMONS UNLESS IT WAS A TRUE CHURCH OR HONEST!! LOOK AT TOM! YOUR JUST PLAYING THE SAME GAME THEY ALL DO BY NEVER ADMITTING THE TRUTH !!

YET AGAIN YOU LIE!!!! NO WOMAN HOLDS POWER IN YOUR LDS "CHURCH" YOUR OWN STATEMENT PROVES MY POINT ABOUT WOMAN BEING 2 CLASS!
"The LDS church is the ONLY church that allows ALL mankind to be LEADERS"

IN CASE YOU STILL WHAT TO BELIEVE THE CHURCH, LET ME INFORM YOU THAT WOMAN ARE PART OF MANKIND! EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE BEEN TAUGHT DIFFERENT! THE "CHURCH" TEACHES A GIRLS PLACE IS TO BE SUBSERVIENT TO A MAN & NO MATTER WHAT ELSE SHE EVER DOES IN LIFE SHE MUST HAVE CHILDREN! WOMAN THAT DON'T ARE LOOKED DOWN UPON. EVEN THOSE WITH MEDICAL PROBLEMS! WOMAN IN THE "CHURCH" WHO HAVE BEEN BORN INTO OR CONVERTED TO THIS CRAP ARE NOT HELD IN HIGH REGARD. ONLY AS BREADING STOCK TO MAKE MORE MORMONS. THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HOLD ANY POWER IN THE ORGANIZATION.. SOME IN THEIR OWN HOMES MAY HAVE SOME WORTH TO THEIR HUSBANDS, BUT AS A GROUP THEY ARE NOT. THE MEN IN THE CULT MAKE ANY & ALL DECISIONS UNLESS IT'S WHAT KIND OF COOKIES TO MAKE FOR THE BAKE SALE. YOU ARE JUST SPOUTING BRAINWASHED PROPAGANDA WITH NO REAL SUBSTANCE & I SUGGEST YOU LOOK FOR ANOTHER WAY OF LIFE.

Boy I bet all those rich mormons are probably pissed off that you outed them!

Everyone knew faggy Donny was crazy, but all those other guys probably didn't what people outside of the church to know.

I agree with what was said about Harry Reid... He is a crook!!!

Katie needs to learn that when Tom is on the phone calling the paps with the where/when, she really should put on some makeup, and at least comb the hair. Also does she EVER dress appropriatley for anything? Tip to Katie... lose the Scieno stylist, he/she is not doing you ANY favors!

you think anyone who is not fanatically AGAINST tom and Kat are followers etc. It is so ridiculuous. I am French and have no religion what so ever. But I do recognize intolerence and form of fanatism in the attacks against Tom and Kat. There seems to be no obvious damage to the kids, and Katie married without a knife under her throat. Now MAYBE TOM is not quite clear, and he scientologisys either, but intolerence seems to spread else where than in their backyards. Disgusted of this site I hope to resist
the occasional need to see what Katie is wearing etc. Superficial, girlie stuff had attracted me mostly, but the hatred expressed on the side by some of the comments above is just intolerable. In French we say "la bave du crapaud n'atteint pas celui qu'il vise"...

Anony. 3:06am ...I believe Tom loves Katie but...You will learn that Tom is all about the money and the press. When the south of the United States (New Orleans to be exact) had that huge flooding, alot of celebrities came forward to donate their money to help rebuild. Even Brad Pitt has been down their involved with rebuilding the community. But Tom was in pictures showing off his new toys, buying a new house and flaunting off his fortune. He's made a few good movies, didn't graduate from H.S. and feels he is so talented that he should get $75,000,000.00 per movie. I don't think so!!! Tom Cruise is two faced and he knows how to work the public. If he went around telling people what he really thought then he would lose movie goers and that means he loses money. Paramount has worked with him a long time....don't you think it's a little suspicious that if he was the golden boy they would let Tom go over ...his telling the world he loved Katie? C-mon

No one has "outed" the LDS church. The person that wrote in all CAPS is for some reason bitter. The LDS church is not anything like she has stated. For one thing, Women can hold positions in the church. The Relief Society is headed by women ONLY. It is JUST for the women.
I am ammember of the LDS church and I have never been told that I must have children. Never!
The LDS church does NOT tell you what you have to do in your personal lives.
And 10% is ALL that the Lord asks anyone to give. And THAT is in the Bible, King James version. Even the Catholics believe that.
And it is 10% of what you have. If you own a manufacturing plant and you want to give 10% of your product, it will be acepted and given to those in need.

As far as giving to the flood victims of Katrina, Yes MANY stars have given to help in the clean up.

The LDS church was FIRST on the sceen with 18 wheelers FULL of sanitary kits, clothing of all sizes, food, portable shelters, chain saws to cut pathways, infalatable rafts to help in rescues.

In Dec 2004, the tsunamia that hit the Thailand area, the LDS church was there again to aid in relief. In the first two days over 20,000 sanitary kits were delivered. They conist of soap, bottled water, tooth brush and paste and clean under wear.

When ever there has been a natural disaster, anywhere in the world, the LDS church has been the first on the scene to give aid and comfort.
Nothing is ever asked for in return.

Now if you want to call that a cult,
then those are YOUR words.

For anyone that really whats to know the truth about
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
go to www.lds.org

anon at 8:05pm So sorry that you are really misinformed.

"The Relief Society" Are you kidding me!!! What s joke!! Just something the men dosn't want anythig to do with. And the bishop who is a man has final say on everything that group does as well & you know it!!! Yes your allow to plan parties & help mormons who are sick, but give me a break that is not a poistion of power & you know it! Everything goes thru the men first!!! Start reading somthing other that what the "church" allows you to read.

How come you haven't said ANYTHING about that thing about the men getting planets & all those woman!!!! Your just pushing the party line.

Catholics DO NOT believe they HAVE to give 10% they give what they want & some give NOTHING at aLl. BISHOPS MAKE PEOPLE SHOW TAX RETURNS & TELL PEOPLE WHAT THEY MUST PAY & DON'T LIE ABOUT THAT EITHER.

COME ON NOW MORMON GIRL...EVEN I KNOW THE MORMONS MOSTLY HELP THEMSELVES!!!

THEY WHEN DOWN TO THOSE PLACE TO HELP THEIR OWN. BETTER FOR THE REST OF US, BUT PLEASE DON'T SOUND SO SPECIAL!!!

Sound to me like she has a VERY GOOD IDEA about what she's talking about! I think you thinks she's right too which is why you want people to read the lds wesite! MAYBE people should read books & info NOT approved by your church. You seem REALLY concerned about the fact that people don't think they have to pay 205 that it's only 10%. WAY TOO MUCH FOR ME!!

that's funny, i have never ever been asked to give a percentage of my money, ever.

HEHE Me either. Nor have I ever shown tax returns to anyone.

john at 12:14pm, would you go to a Yugo dealership if you wanted to find out how to fix a Porsche? Do you go to Kmart to buy custom made clothing? NO and NO.

So why would you go to a NON church site to learn about a church.

Why not go straight to the souce and ask them the questions and make up your own mind?

Why do you feel you have to go somewhere else to be told how to think about a subject?

Someone posting in all CAPS is obviously bitter about something. I really don't think they are in the right frame of mind to know the whole truth.
I have never heard of ANY church asking for a tax return to be a member.

If I were you, I'd go find out straight from that church if it is true. Or better yet, ask the IRS. Cuz IF it's true, that a church wants your tax returns, they will lose their tax exempt status.

There is NO way you can compare the Morman church to scientology. NO WAY.
For starters, Mormons believe in modern day medicine.
The Primary Children Hospital, on eof the best in the world is in Salt Lake City and owned by that church.
Mormons believe in God and Jesus Christ and they believe in the bible, king james version.

In the bible Jesus said, "Other sheep I have that are not of this fold, they also I must visit." The Book of Mormon tells of when Jesus was visiting his "other sheep" on what is now known as the North American continent.
It really simple.

You either want to read it and believe it or you don't. FREE OF ALL CHARGES! No money ever exchanges hands.
Honestly and truthfully.
no need to make it a hateful thing.

On Katie-Holmes.org the people there are leaving such wonderful comments about Katie and Tom. You can tell that site is for Katie and Tom lovers.

Katie is da bomb.

Oh Katie she looks older than Madonna!! Poor dear! WTF? This is more than staged. The body language say it all - I say they are up to something - again - and they are attempting to plant the rumours. Now The Zena Gay One will even use his children to creat this facade. Why not just come out of the closet?
We all believe it anyway.

John 5:15 who the heck are you... not the same as the first john . You are all not telling the truth. I am a mormon from UT & we all are told to pay. My parents have been taking my t out for the church since I can remember. I even pay a % of my x-mas cash. So I'm not sure what your ashamed of...but I pay & I will admit I am told to but it is for my lord & that is HOW I WAS Raised.
when my sister got married she said she couldn't afford the 20, & my mom was really upset. A meeting with our bishop was set up & my sister & her new husband DID need to bring their tax returns from he year before to help explain the hardship. Our bishop granted hen the permission to pay less. I think it was about 12% but not sure... That's how it's done in our ward & my dad's an elder & says it's the same everywhere. I'm grateful to give my money to the lord & I'm not about to lie about that. I hope to be worthy of going to temple & will keep in good standings.

The mormon church wed site does not tell you ANY REAL INFO. It's all about recruiting. Get a clue...you should ALWAYS do your research before making a life change like joining the mormons! YOU WILL NEVER HEAR A BAD SALES PITCH WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

I think Bill & jill are the SAME MORMON!!! wake up people

The mormon church NEVER TELLS THE TRUTH!!! Aren't you people listening to her!!!! You have to ALREADY BE A MEMBER to get any REAL INFO. You can't EVER know what goes on in the temple until your a mormon & your have a pass to get in!!! It's all pay before you play! they get people to "trust" that they are the one true religion, but everything is a big secret. I have always thought they were cult like & mormons are very secretive about everything they do. I think her info is more truth that we could ever know! I will never join something & be a blind follower! They will never answer the real questions!

Hey jill..or whoever you are.... sounds like your just *ucking around & still not answering any of her points/questions. She NEVER said mormons were a mirror images, she just said they where a cult just like the Tom crazy's. You just trying to change the subject & act like we're ALL brainwashed here! NOT!!

stop all your religious crap! This is not the place for your hatred and intolerance. Normally it is a fan site, but seems to be a detractors one. Stay among yourselves then, bunch of people full of hattred, and this site will become a tribune against tom and Katie.Great! For what they or I care in the end! Those who are not hatefull will always find a nest far away from your spite and envy.

Can someone pass that girl a brush and some makeup?! Can't believe she went out in public like that!

If you go to Tom Cruise's websites he apparently has numerous movies on the works and he may not be starring in them all but he is producing many of these movies. For all you people who don't care for him and have said you don't plan to watch any of his movies...I think it will be hard. He is also using some really good A-list actors in his movies. Like Meryl Streep, Robert Redford,Hayden Christiansen,Kevin Bacon, Sylvestor Stallone, Steve Martin, Diane Keaton, etc.

Why is it when you try to educate people against cults & try to save stupid followers your called a hater. As usual if you don't dtay in line & do as your told your called evil! You people AMAZE me it's O.K. to puss a curch wesite & try to recurie but it;s NOT o.K. to try to ask people to read other info. Sounds to me like she trying to help strangers & the mormons are try to lie.

o.k., I didn't want to add to the religious rigamarole going on here because it's completely off subject for this site.......but I find it interesting that in one sentence "I KNOW THE TRUTH" says The LDS church is the ONLY church that allows ALL mankind to be LEADERS in their church." then in the next sentence says "The LDS does NOT allow anyone in prison to become a member of the church."......that's not exactly allowing ALL MANKIND be leaders, now is it, they're sort of selective of who they let join obviously

The mormons CLAIM they are a "Christian" church. Well maybe they would like to explain why they DON'T USE CROSSES!!! Like EVERY OTHER REAL christian church does. Why not one of their facilities have ANY crosses in them at all. Well hung in the proper way that is. Oh & by the way Jim Jones claimed to run a "Christian" church too! If you don't know who this evil man was you should google & read up. He wanted to be as large & powerful someday as the mormons became.

Why is it that K. looks thin/ no tummy in some clothes (are her jeans really THAT tight?), and other photos begin rumors of a 2nd pregnancy? The belly could be suri weight and bad posture combined, but she looks so heavy in the white skirt yet totally trim in her birthday photo wearing capri jean? I don't understand . . . .

'kay, baby weight may go away, but it takes a long time to build the abs that keep tummies looking slim. If she were preggo again I think it would be much more obvious.
The skirt is probably a little tight at the waist which makes just below her waist stick out. White also makes you look bigger, especially when it's so tight. You people are crazy, she looks totally slim...
Yes, I think she looks tired. Wouldn't you having come back from your honeymoon so recently and now you have to shop for a million people for xmas?? Besides, she's lucky if Suri is sleeping through the night!
Anyone who's had a kid knows that they seem to age you overnight, I'm not surprised she looks older and the dark around her eyes doesn't help it.
To the poster who says it's okay to point out celebrities faults, I understand that you mean it's important for us "regular folk" not to try and live up to an ideal that doesn't exist, but how would you like millions of people posting things about you online?? I think it's got to be hard, but you're right, we can't expect celebrities to be perfect always, they are real people who want to relax some days too.

Isabella seems to really like flats. she's always seen wearing them if shes not doing sports.

You haters are complete morons. Did you ever stop to think that maybe she looks so tired because she has a BABY?! Could that possibly be it?! Do any of you jerks have young kids? They dont sleep! They get up every couple of hours, so of course she's going to look different. Use your miniscule brains before you make an ignorant comment.

wHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENS WHEN YOU START SLRRPING WITH THE DEVIL 7 THEN MARRIES HIM ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE.

I LOVE Katie. I'm not sure why I've never seen anything she's ever been except the tabloids. I guess it's because I read where when she was younger she said she wanted to marry Tom Cruise & she accomplished her goal. I have an affinity for women who marry well & don't have to do anything but shop in pencil skirts, heels & fishnets. Go Katie, Go. For the record if you're not a wizard with your own hair it's hard to get it to look perfect. By the way what is the ring on her right hand? I thought your wedding ring went on your left hand??

I agree

Katie used to be pretty girl, now she looks old, ok she's shopping without Tom so she can wears heels :)
Isabella looks bored. For Nicole yes it's sad she can't see her kids, they've been raised by scientologists, home-schooled by scientologists sad sad

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I think katie is a sweet lady..well at least she behaves like one. She looks fine and she's also approachable.

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