X17 XCLUSIVE - Orlando Keeps Quiet

He looks great!

WHATS BETTER THAN TRYING TO LEAVE A FRIEND IN NEED!

WHATS BETTER THAN TRYING TO LEAVE A FRIEND IN NEED!

CLASSIC POOR EXCUSE FOR A MAN~!

And X17 is there wondering why orlando doesn't talk to them, while THEY caused the accident. When are you going to get sued, btw ?

Yo, Stupids! Do you guys ever realize that NOBODY but you stupid assholes is still interested in this damn accident?
And yeah, I wonder when you guys will get sued, too.

Or when Orlando will shove one of these cameras down your ass, thinking of it.

Did Mr.Big Time Celebrity just walk past all those other people in line?LOL

X17 get a picture of him and his new rumored girlfriend while she is in town this week.Then you can have something new to yell at him when taking his picture. Ask Mr. him why dated her while she was still with her aussie boyfriend. Ask him why he tried to take home Veronica Taylor from Green Door just after having a date with Miranda in New York. Ask him if that goes along with his claims of being a strong buddhist.

Did Mr.Big Time Celebrity just walk past all those other people in line?LOL

X17 get a picture of him and his new rumored girlfriend while she is in town this week.Then you can have something new to yell at him when taking his picture. Ask Mr. him why dated her while she was still with her aussie boyfriend. Ask him why he tried to take home Veronica Taylor from Green Door just after having a date with Miranda in New York. Ask him if that goes along with his claims of being a strong buddhist.

PARENTAL ADVISORY

X-17 SCUMBAG PAPARAZZI CAUSED THE CRASH IN THE FIRST PLACE, SO WE ALL HOPE YOU DIE IN HELL SOON.

Just keepin' it real.

@oily orli

wow...pissed of fangirl? Poor you. *pats your head* Just be patient, one day someone will love you...

In addition to above posters comment's, I'd like X-17 to ask how Mr. Bloom defines "honor and intergrity," and "keeping it real." Oh, and the term "privacy" and what it means to him as well. Much appreciated! Thank ye kindly!!

In addition to above posters comment's, I'd like X-17 to ask how Mr. Bloom defines "honor and integrity," and "keeping it real." Oh, and the term "privacy" and what it means to him as well. Much appreciated! Thank ye kindly!!

Orlando drinks, drives and crashes. He blames the paparazzi not they're going to follow him everywhere and harass him. I don't what happened to you Orlando. Get you arse back to Britain because LA has a hella bad Karma for you.

PARENTAL ADVISORY

X-17 SCUMBAG PAPARAZZI CAUSED THE CRASH IN THE FIRST PLACE, SO WE ALL HOPE YOU DIE IN HELL SOON.

Just keepin' it real.

God, you people are idiots.
That sounds like the same "photographer" that has been hounding him for a while. Orlando should file stalking charges against him, and x17.

ONE MORE FRICKING TIME: NO ALCOHOL OR DRUGS WERE INVOLVED!!

Are you people too stupid to understand that?

And of coures Orlando went right past that line of people. Name ONE celeb of his stature who waits in line at ANY restaurant. That is one of the perks. If you don't like it, become rich and famous yourself. Then you can do the same thing.

wow, looks like X17 has hired people to defend them in the comments, How funny :P

Can't wait to see you get sued, X17. Maybe then you'll stop putting your responsibility on other people, like the cowards you are.

@Al Waysright,
Bloom can avoid the pap spots (i.e. trendy night clubs and hangouts) if he wants to. If they have it out for him, the Dumb Dude should avoid them, or better yet - GET OUT OF LA!!! What's the deal with paparazzi hangout restaurants and Victoria Secret Models? Is he that desperate for publicty and attention??? Seems like it.

still trying to make money out of that accident, X17 ? Didn't get enough to ppay the charges yet ?

Why didn't YOU helped those poor injured women, btw ? That wasn't going to bring you any money, so it wasn't worth it ? It was betetr to take pictures of them ?

Zac Efron gets flowers, Britney gets to run over your feet on a daily basis but Orlando Bloom constantly gets this appaling treatment. I really wonder what he’s done to you and how you choose your enemy targets.

I don’t care what mistakes he has or has not made in the past – it is not the paparazzi’s job to judge or punish people and there is no excuse for treating others this badly. The paparazzi approaches we keep seeing/hearing when you’re around this guy are so out of line (and is likely to tarnish your reputation with the readers/viewers (such as it is) more than it will his). This video does not make him look bad – it does make you look like scum. You really should call in your pack of hounds and request they act at least remotely like human beings.

he is handsome. BTW, Did you ever posted your profile on a celebrity and millionaire dating site called searchingmillionaire.com. I saw your profile there few weeks ago.

What he has done to them is provide evidence of wrongdoing to the police. The paps are still being investigated for the accident where THEY were the hit-and-run drivers. Witnesses saw the whole thing, and the paps are trying to discredit Orlando in the public eye. The paps are pissed, and doing their best to bring him down. But they can't. They got nuthin'.

LEAVE ORLANDO ALONE! LEAVE HIM ALONE! LEAVE ORLANDO ALONE PLEASE! Somebody make a youtube video already. Britney and Orlando JUST LEAVE'EM ALONE! :p

4:49 You are wrong.The only reason they didn't investigate 'lil orly' further is because it would come out in the open that he was NOT GIVEN A BREATH TEST BY THE POLICE. So the police are really just covering their own asses. It was clear on the tape he was walking away. It was even clearer he was high as a kite.The only mistake the camera men made was telling him to go back. They should have just let him dig his own grave. Seriously, what do you think would have happened if they didn't tell him that. Saying he was in shock doesn't work either. Then how in the heck did he snap out of it the minute the camera man told him to go back and save his own butt?

Let's not start up that accident shit again. It's clear he wasn't his usual self that not but if his fans want to ignore that them let them. Nothing's going to come of any investigation so move on. For those mad that he may have gotten off no worries, it looks like the Mr. Buddhism is paying for with his current bad Karma and he looks like shit all the time.

Leave Orly alone, he just wants to be a regular guy

Why is this NITT WITT continuously trying to act like a scared chicken????

Then, why bring yourself to these media "hotspots"?

But X17....whoever the questioner is...he's hilarious...he's asking dim witted questions, but so funny!!!

On the personal tip...Orlando Bloom and a brunette are photographed getting in a car at the Renaissance Hotel on November 15, 2007...Miranda's got a man on the wild side!!!

Advice to Orlando Bloom:
1) Avoid trendy celebrity hot spots
2) Avoid paparazzi hot spots (see #1)
3) Avoid actresses and models (they're going to be ambitious and publicity hungry, in case you haven't figured that out)
4) If you ignore #3, then I would assume you're using them as much as they're using you. Turn about is fair game, as the saying goes.
5) Don't you have a home, a family and a life in England? What happened? What does Los Angeles have that London doesn't have?
6) Since you're an A-Lister and a BIG MOVIE STAR, I assume you have scripts sent to your agent, who then forwards them on to you. Can't those be sent to you in England?
7) If you really value your privacy, it would be wise to avoid going to certain places, and there ARE ways to keep one's whereabouts and private life private without throwing tidbits and "PR doggie bones" to the press and media (and your fans)
8) If you're mentally and emotionally mixed up, which I suspect you are, Hollywood is full of therapists who treat celebrities and public figures, all of whom undoubtedly find themselves in strange situations and circumstances that have to be dealt with. It's nothing to be ashamed of, Orlando.

@5:36

AMEN!

5:33 @ Lee
Thats part of the plan.Make the paps and press look in another direction.
stay on the case x17 the dude is GUILTY of a lot of things.

5:36: Ever hear the saying 'physician heal thyslef'? For a former fan you've thought way too much about Orlando Bloom. Find something you can be a "current" fan of and focus on that. You'll be happier.

way to go x17! Kick his ass until that whinney wimp of a man runs his sorry blimey ass back to the UK crying to his mum.
Help karma along.He has it coming to him.He is a coward and a liar. Karma isgonna get him right between the eyes and I hope x17 gets it all on video.

whine, whine, winge winge - who cares what he did, Id sitll fuck him ;) hardee har har!!!!!!!

Wow you guys are assholes! I'm so shocked to see how many human people (can you even call paps human people???) have no heard!I hope you end up in hell because for you heaven is way to good for you!!!!!!

If he's not on your hottopix than just leave poor guy alone.

He's upset enough as it is right now . You guys don't need to hunt him down like a pack of wolves . (oops wrong choice of words . Even Wolves have more integrity than you guys.

x17you should post more of your orly videos on youtube.That is where the little fan girls check and they might not know of this site. They need to see him for the real jackass he is.

Orlando is a punk!

he is hot... http://www.spymac.com/details/?2304922

Here...Here...to 5.36PM,6.26PM and 9.54PM

Why is he Stateside??
I'm sure they have non-stop flights from LAX to Britain...Didn't he build a multi-million dollar mansion in London recently? Who's inhabiting it?

QUESTION OF THE DAY
I'll give anyone 5,000 pounds if they can answer why Orlando chased a guy to his car, jump in the car UNINVITED, touching the man on his chest, and still would not leave after several requests to do so!!!

Awwww...I'm just waiting for one of the ditsy fangirls to say he was drunk...but you can't say that cause you keep stating that the police found him not to be liquored up...So, why would a non-inebreated man be on another man's trail over hitting on chick?

And the answer is????
I'm still waiting!!

Lee, if Bloom was drunk or high on drugs, it would be very damaging to his career (assuming he still has one) and his image. His loyal fans will cry "Foul!" or "Shock" rather than admit certain other possibilities. Since his ex, Kate Bosworth, is out of the picture, his femals fans can't blame her anymore for his behavior the way they used to. Bloom has choices, but he seems to have made some very poor ones over the past few years, and he really needs to step back, look at himself, and maybe get some therapy. Money, fame and celebrity perks and status can mess with people's heads big time. Why should Orlando be an exception?

Continuing my post to you, Lee:

I DO hold the paparazzi responsible for THEIR OWN ACTIONS, but I don't blame them for the personal choices of actors and celebrities themselves. If Bosworth were still his girlfriend, his fans would be all over her like hair and fleas on a dog, blaming her for the constant PR pictures and pap set ups. Since she's not there to blame, it's now the paparazzi's fault. When asked, "Why doesn't Orlando just avoid these high profile places and stay away from the paps and their territories?", Bloom's fans will answer, "He can go anywhere he wants, and why should he hide or live his life like an animal in a cage?" For those who don't know it, Los Angeles is a pretty big city. Bloom's been working here and living here off and on since fall of 2002, so he knows the ropes. It's time to admit he wants and needs attetion, one way or another. Getting publicity and pap photos taken with actresses and models as arm candy is one way to go!

Don't count on getting an answer to your post, Lee. And in case anyone wonders, I am NOT employed by X-17, and I'm not part of some great secret society or conspiracy against Bloom. These are just my opinions and observations.

Lee stop asking the bloomie fangirls to use logic it is too much for them. They are not much differnt than the kind of girls who write prison inmates.They will not look at the truth.
I think the reason Orlando looks like shit lately is because his conscience is bothering him. He knows he walked away and he knows all but little bloomie girls know it too.

x17posters please also check the just jared site and help kick fangirl ass over there the next time there is a new orli thread. They all read there and most just refuse to see any fault in the once golden boy

Well, since you consider anyone who disagrees with you a "fangirl", I will give you a man's perspective. Personally, I think that Orlando hit on that girl in the club before he realized that she was with someone. The dude got pissed, and grabbed the girl and stormed off. It seemed like Orlando just wanted to make sure the the dude wasn't pissed at the girl. Looked like he was trying to calm the guy down, and the guy seemed to accept his apology. I found it telling that the girl made sure that Orlando knew that it was her EX boyfriend.

And I don't think he was drunk that night either. In one of the pap vids of him walking to the car, they show him bending over to grab the paps keys off the ground and never breaking stride, while walking fairly fast. That takes good balance. There is no way that he could have done that while walling if he was drunk.

And one more thing. If I was a young, rich guy in Hollywood, I would be going after the VS models too. I might not have gone after Miranda. But I would have gone after one (or two) of them.

And if the paps only dog him at "celebrity hot spots" that you think he should avoid, why do we get videos of him at the grocery store? Does doing his own grocery shopping make him an attention whore too?

12:47most people don't have a problem with him dating a model.The problem is she had a boyfriend when they hooked up. So you can add cheater to the list for this lying coward.

Buddhist my ass.

I don't think Orlando was drunk that night I just think he forgot to turn off his real Hollywood Douche persona in front of the cameras like he normally does.

Don't you just love how he zooms right past all those little people waiting in line. Any people wonder why celebrities get hated on all the time. X17 follow his azz everyday, all day until it can't take it anymore.

POSTERS...

I love you all...even the ones who keep on their rose-colored glasses, when it comes to Bloom...

Can we just recognize this guy is not ready for prime-time!!!

He acts like a sneaky, manipulative mouse...

He wants the attention and celebrity status...HE DOES NOT WANT TO BE A "NORMAL GUY"...HE DOES NOT WANT TO BE "LEFT ALONE"...

WHAT HE DOES WANT IS FOR THE MEDIA TO FOLLOW HIM AROUND LIKE HE'S THE "IT" GUY
AND THE LATEST TREND...

He's been exposed...so, that's not happening anymore and that's why we see the "SAD FACES".

Well Lee, it's quite possible that he IS a "sneaky manipulative mouse." He may well be as much of a 'player' and 'user' and manipulater of people and the media as some other celebrities and movie stars are. It's a known (but not discussed) fact that he openly lied about having an official website; he lied to his fans straight to their faces on video! He also lied about doing a film with his ex called "Seasons of Dust." Perhaps his greatest 'performance' has been in concealing his TRUE nature from the public and the fans. There is definitely some bitterness and anger out there among some of his former fans who felt lied to over the years.

@12:47:
I appreciated your post coming from a male perspective. No, getting caught grocery shopping doesn't count as "attention whore" behavior, but if he or his friends or PR people tipped off the paps to find him there (as Kate Bosworth was ALWAYS accused of by Bloom's female fans who resented her!), then yes, it does count as such behavior! If we eliminate all the paparazzi hangout shots and treny night club shots, all we'd have left are some grocery shopping and walking the dogs in the park type of shots. That just leaves formal events and media type events for Bloom's female fans to get their Orlando fix. They'd go nuts!!!

What video are you guys watching? When does he cut the line to get ahead of the little people? Looks like he walks to the back of the line and just stands there? Is this another one of those "unedited" videos?

Incidentally, if the best defense you have for someone speaking the truth of what they see on a video is that they're a "fan girl", you have already lost the argument.

It is what it is, folks.

Signed:

Wishing someone would call me a "girl" again.

(

if he keeps Robin and the Huavne brothers around than that says alot about if he is manipulative or not right there.People just aren't use to seeing it because he lets them do the dirty work.He must approve of their work if he keeps them on the payroll.

Well, if you want to be literal, he DID have an official website during the time that his movie was being promoted. It would not have to be run by him to be called "official".
And why do you say that he lied about Seasons of Dust? He and Kate were linked with the film, which was to go into production when he finished POTC. When they broke up he, or she, pulled out. Changing your mind and lying are two different things.

Oh good grief...

Would some of the "defenders" stop acting like you're nursing him!!!

That's why he's in quicksand now...between his mother, sister and Bloomies he just keeps on being pampered...

What the Bloomies are doing reminds me of when you see a young lad and you pinch his cheeks saying "Oh he's so adorable".

Now, let me go throw up!

Can't take anyone disagreeing with ya, huh Lee?
I guess if anyone who thinks differently is a "fangirl", that must make you a pimply faced, jealous, fanboy. You seem to spend a great deal of time talking about someone you supposedly can't stand.
Must be a sad, sad life.
Poor Lee.

5.56P...

Take the blinders off...

It's not that I can't stand Bloom...

Just stop writing the he's the innocent victim...

Lee, you might just be on to something there in regards to the pampering comments... If Bloom never had boundaries set at home (between a free spirited "eccentric"* mother and an often missing father*), and if his fans excuse his behavior time and time again (or blame it on someone or something else), and he has trouble setting his own personal and professional boundaries... well, you get the picture. I don't see him as innocent, and I don't see him as a victim. There was a time when I saw him as both. I just don't anymore. It's time to face facts, ugly and inconvenient as they may be. I don't begrudge actors their humanity, but when they act as though they're above the grime and muck that they've been swimming in for quite some time, I lose respect for them. It's that simple. So, I hear you loud and clear, Lee.

*The term "eccentric" is one that Bloom has used to describe his mother.
*I suspect that Bloom's father, Colin Stone, was often away as Orlando has mentioned that he was more of a friend than a father. Bloom got to see his father on weekends. I suspect the coddling and cooing was a product of his female based upbringing, as his father was NOT a main part of his childhood upbringing. He said so himself - his mother, sister and grandmother raised him. Pity there wasn't more male presence in his life and upbringing. I think he would have benefited from it, in more ways than one. That might also explain why Orlando's feminine side is far more developed than his masculine side. Hmmm... Maybe that's why he's not strong enough leading man material. The artsy/female side of him was developed, but the male/aggressive side was neglected. Okay. I really think it's time I stop now. I'm starting to sound nutty and ditzy even to myself at this point. Time to log off.

...The artsy/female side of him was developed, but the male/aggressive side was neglected. Okay. I really think it's time I stop now. I'm starting to sound nutty and ditzy even to myself at this point. Time to log off.

Hey, Carmen, aka A Former Fan. Go back to IMDB or somewhere else. You're tired, bullshit is so 2004.

You're right, it does sound like Carmen. She is probably just pissed about the restraining order that Orlando's people filed against her.
Hey, Carmen, do you still think that Orlando is celibate? Still pining away for you to come and rescue him from this hedonistic Hell?

he'd better keep his mouth shut. he can't say anything incriminating or he'll be up shit's creek, although he'll just be in the favored company of other celebrity defendants like OJ Simpson, Rebecca Gayheart, Paris Hilton, Nicole Richie, Winona Ryder, Halle Berry, Phil Spector, Lane Garrison, etc. -- all shedding their crocodile tears, biding their time until they may again live above the law.

I feel bad for some of you. I think the only disappointment here is the fact that he didn't live up to your expectations. Did you really think Orlando was as wonderful as he came across in interviews. Everyone puts on their best face when they have to but now he's rich and famous because of you and the only thing he thinks is that you are some silly fangirls who he occasionally takes the time to sign autographs for. You are the little people that made him big and now that he's comfortable with the celebrity you gave him he's going to do whatever he wants with it. You can best believe you fangirls are not his concern he's too busy fucking models, eating at fancy restaurants and avoiding all places where he'd have to run into any of you weirdos. But I'm sure he thanks you for making him a millionaire. I'm sure he sends you some good Karma as he and Miranda do butt naked Buddhist chant after a long night of fucking and probably snorting.

x17, you guys are such asses! What the hell is up with that SAME damn mexican camera guy following him around asking him stupid questions all the time? What he said outside of Madeo's was way the fuck over the line. You're trying to bait him, and that's fucking low! I applaud his restraint, cuz if it were me I WOULD shove that camera down your goddam throats...

@9:58,

"butt naked Buddhist chant after a long night of fucking and probably snorting."

I adore you Blah!

So, is Bloom taunting the paparazzi, or are they taunting him? It takes two to play tag, you know. Hasn't he figured that out by now?

If Bloom has been living a lie or using the press and paps when it suited him and worked to his professional advantage over the years, it only stands to reason that he'll have to pay a price for that sooner or later. If he sold his fans a fake bill of goods and tried to be anything and everything people wanted him to be, there's a price to pay for that as well.

It seems to me he's starting to pay it. He shouldn't choke to hard...He can wash it down with the money, the clubs, the actresses and models, the press and the hype, etc. He possibly feels it's a fair trade. If he didn't want stardom and celebrity status, he would have made different choices in his career.

If he doesn't like what's happening, there's England, a low key and not so public life style, finding a nice English girl or woman to marry, and turning in high quality acting performances in good films. If he can't really hack it as an actor, that pretty much leaves things right about...where they are now. What a shame.

Oi, Mr Latin 'probably in the USA as an illgal immingrant' video camera man....asking that question is kind of like you asking Owen Wilson whether or not he's going to try and top himself again. Brainless asshole. Go home.

To Orlando Bloom's obsessive fan girlies: Why are you still following 'Carmen' around the net? Does it bother you that she's perhaps moved on, or that she may have been right about some things pertaining to Orlando? Does it bother you so much that despite the restraining order you joke about, Orlando is STILL in LA, has purchased a house in LA, and his own freakin' fan club or fan mail gets sent to bloody Burbank - also in LA? Does it bother you that perhaps other people are starting to see Orlando in a not so positive light, and YOU can't call them obsessed nutjobs, jealous, or stalkers? After a while, the obsessive fan girlies have to insist that it's ONE poster forming ALL the opinions. YOU people need to get a life, seriously. Interesting how one person, 'Carmen', should have such a profound effect on so many in Bloom's fandom. Why don't you get her autograph. Time to let go, people. If 'Carmen' was right about some things, then so be it. If she was wrong, then so be it. YOU are the freaks that Orlando needs to get restraining orders against!!! I don't know which is worse - some of Bloom's fans who follow him every freakin' place, or the paparazzi, who do the same. Good God, people. You're as bad as the paps.

Come on x17nail his ass.Put his back against the wall. Lets find out about the cheating. If he isn't the man of integrity that he has been pretending to be let's expose him and send his ass back to the UK and watch whats left of his career go down the toilet.

If he hasn't then he needs to speak up for once and defend himself. His reputation couldn't get much worse right now.He is looking like a Sean Stewart and Brandon Davis type now.Known
for nothing but tabloid antics and general dirt bag living.

So you guys who are bashing on him(you know who you are) think you have more right to assume negativly about him than the fans who assume postivly about me. Am I right? Well guess what you guys are just about at the same level. So stop all the pointless bitching about the fan-girls and Orlando Bloom. Because It won't get Orlando in jail anytime soon and it won't keep the girls quiet.

Not dealing with it your name is so right. You are not dealing with what's right in front of your face. Look how much this man has changed. How many times did he say London is home? I don't like the Hollywood scene? How many times did he paint himself as down to earth and not into celebrity culture? Look at him he's become everything he said he wouldn't. He's become everything but a good actor. He's not the guy he made himself out to be. He's a social climbing fraud and THAT'S OBVIOUS. Even X17 is making fun of him asking is he going to turn up at The Ivy next. I wouldn't be surprised if he did. Hollywood sell-out.

Ugh, don't restraining orders and stalking charges involving celebs usually make the news or headlines? I don't recall ever hearing about or reading of any Orlando fan being arrested for stalking or having restraining orders issued against him or her. That's a pretty serious charge to level against someone and could be grounds for legal action. We may not agree with each other, but that doesn't make us crazy, stalkers, or things like that. If Orlando EVER had a fan that was issued an actual restraining order, we would have heard about it! Believe me! That's something that makes the news! If it happens, X-17 will probably be there!!

If it turns out he is dating this model girl she is as dumb as a doornob.
She saw the way he acted at the club with another girl AND she saw him walk away from two bleeding women. I guess she doesn't have very high standards for a boyfriend. Just being rich wil do.

What happened to you, Orly? Please, please stay away from night clubs and places where these paps will find you. Don't make it easy for them. Find other ways to get publicity if you need it, besides night clubs and actresses and models who'll only use you anyway. I'd like to follow YOUR career and not some actress or models career each time I read about you. Please go home to London. Los Angeles has bad karma for you. Go back to your friends and family and be with the people who love you. If Miranda makes you happy, then please don't do with her what happened with Kate. Keep your careers and publicity separate, OK? And be happy! Don't give x-17 and tmz stuff to use against you!

I LOOVVVE what someone at Holy Moly said about Bloom about a month ago:

"Orlando Bloom-Pinochio Incarnate"

BWAAAHAAAAAAAAAAA! Absolutely dead on.
Best EVAH! I bow to whmever said it.
Maybe we should just start saying Pinochio Bloom!

ROFLOL!!!! Pinochio Incarnate! That just encompasses...well...EVERYTHING about him!
He's really become a low life skeez hasn't he?
Deliberately inserting yourself/breaking up another relationship? I guess that makes him "The Other Woman" yeah? Low Low Low.

ROFLOL!!!! Pinochio Incarnate! That just encompasses...well...EVERYTHING about him!
He's really become a low life skeez hasn't he?
Deliberately inserting yourself/breaking up another relationship? I guess that makes him "The Other Woman" yeah? Low Low Low.

10:17 I'm glad you see it that way. There are some real f'ing clowns on Just Jared who refuse to see how Orlando could be called a cheater since he was single. They refuse to accept he was quilty as well if he knew she had a boyfriend Her agent claimed the reason Miranda and Bloomers were just friends was because Miranda was still dating her (agents) brother Brent at the time of their first dinner. Now just a week or so later she makes a public statement saying they are breaking up.
If your best friend hooked up with your S.O. I have a hard time believing anyone wouldn't also blame the friend since he knew and was a part of the problem. The fangirls REFUSE to accept this.

He's becoming such a sad stereotype. I mean, what's next, a paternity suit? Finding out that he coldheartedly walked out on his kid because it would be bad for his career? Sadly,I could see this Bloom, this coward, doing this.

If he is with this model why does he still look so damn depressed all the time. It can't be just the paps bugging him. If he was happy he could blow off those comments easily and his face would shine.People look happy when they are in a new relationship. Maybe it's the Karma of pulling another girl away from someone else and he knows it's coming his way fast.

Geez Bloomie! The whole time you and your team were playing your fans- probably laughing at their goodwill and naivete on your way to the bank- did NOONE, not ONE person ever think that maybe it might not be a good idea to f*ck with fangirl voodoo?
Because they're PISSED man, and all that sweet goodwill seems to have turned and is coming straight back for your a**!

HAHAH! Check out tmz's post about him today. He is taking the girl out from the accident to get pap'ed with her on purpose to tell everyone that she isn't upset with him so no one else should care. Everyone saw right through it. He or his people must be reading these comments. (Hi Robin!! sup!)He even brought Miranda's dog with him. Everything is for a reason???
Does he really want to provoke the paps by playing head games with them? Not a good move orli.

I know why he's been looking so sad lately. Because his people have decided that it's time for him to get another beard before everyone catches on to the fact that he's Gay. I imagine it must be really depressing having to pretend you like these ambitious females trying to get attention for their career just so you can hide your true nature and protect your career.

Hey x-17(or TMZ)next time you guys find him, ask him how Brent is doing ok? Because thats the real story now-sadly he got away with the accident and that issue's over. So, yeah, just keep asking how his old mate Brent is fairing for us, yeah? How does Brent feel about Orlando and Miranda's New (is it a week old, or a month old, or is it a six month old now)True Love Forever?

1:16 Good point. You know a lot of people were wondering why would Miranda keep Brent's sister on the payroll and it might be that Carly is what is keeping Brent from talking.
X17 find out what happened between April-present. There is much more to that apartment set up than ever came out in the open.
I didn't know that he use to be friends with Brent -is that part true?

Hey Robin I hope you really are reading here. You better plan a damage control meeting quick. Rumor has it in New York your boy got caught with Miranda at the apartment building photo shoot in April so they decided to make it look like she was suppose to be there all along. That would explain why Miranda has been using his name and he hasn't cared about it. Wow, Orli, you really did have a lot of people fooled. I guess the accident was just the begining of the end. But still, why you walking around with this girls dog all the time now? You look like a fool.

Isn't it interesting that things went seriously down hill for orli right after he spent a weekend with Miranda in New York? Talk about Karma being instant.

He comes back to LA and immediatly gets in an accident that totally changes his image.Now it seems more of the details about him and Miranda will come out soon.

Cheating=Bad Karma.

Budda Boy should have known better. Or maybe the enlightened buddhist was just another act.

1:30 and 2:04- you'r right about there being more to the April condogate stuff. I remember someone at OLove I think, got more pictures from that series and actually found some where you could see Miranda with Orlando in his hotel BEFORE they ever left for the condo. A small handful of us raised our eyebrows at it-it just had that "feel" to it, you know? Made conjectures that maybe they'd been caught cheating and tried to blame the Atelier since she was still with Brent then. And that weird piranha PR statement-"at this stage their just friends". WTF? But,alas we were branded "haters", etc. etc. etc. Definite bad smell to this....Keep up the pressure X-17, ask the right questions;Where's Miranda tonight? how's Brent doing? How do you think he's feeling about your newfound happiness? How long have you and Miranda really been together Orlando? You did this with Kate and Mark too didn't you? Maybe you should have them call each other yeah?

3:01 I saw that picture a long time ago. Can you provide it. I think we should put the pressure on. Send the series of pics to TMZ or X17 and show them.I bet Orlando doesn't even know that picture exist. Bring it on.

sup Robin, happy reading.

Here- look at this on page 3
Bullshit they met at the condo thing. Orlando even lied in an interveiw and said he just ran into her there.
Here it shows that it is her inside his hotel lobby. Look through the glass and then compare it to the other pictures of him leaving the hotel and you know it is the same place.If I didn't explain that good enough maybe the girl above me can help.

http://elflady.com/orlandolove/showthread.php?t=9495&page=3

Better save those pictures if you want them. If the fangirls know you are looking at them they will take them down. Send them to the gossip sights with the ones of him leaving his hotel so you know it is the same place. Better yet, send them to Brent!!!!!!!

Anyone know which agency took those pictues? If they need to be republished it would be important to get in touch with them.
Anyone in NY that can be 100% sure that this is Orlando's hotel and not that condo place where he said in an interview that he just ran into her there?(bull-effing-shit!)

If this is the hotel please send these to Brent.

This could really all add up if those pictures are the real thing.
It would make sense since it was said they met in December 06 at the fashion show and probably stayed in touch.If he hooked up with her in April-then I'm sure it was other times as well-. Then this time September/October -depending on who you ask, she decided to ditch her boyfriend altogether.
If you have ever heard either of them talk about his situation on video or print they both sound very defensive.

This could really all add up if those pictures are the real thing.
It would make sense since it was said they met in December 06 at the fashion show and probably stayed in touch.If he hooked up with her in April-then I'm sure it was other times as well-. Then this time September/October -depending on who you ask, she decided to ditch her boyfriend altogether.
If you have ever heard either of them talk about his situation on video or print they both sound very defensive.

If anyone has myspace send this comment page to Brent at his band's myspace page. I would but I don't have an account anymore.

http://www.myspace.com/tamaramamusic

She was in a video with him this summer and they were talking about how in love they were.

...as one of the guys said who worked on "kingdom of heaven," 'Orlando has LOTS of girlfriends.'

And it's not cheating if you're not married, you idiots.

As for "cutting the line," he met Aileen in the bar, in case you didn't see that part. I really don't think it's cutting when you're meeting someone who's already inside the bloody restaurant.

As for the stalkerazzi, this sort of treatment by anyone without a camera would be labeled stalking. Considering many of the paps are gang members hired by a gang leader who formed a stalking... pardon me, a paparazzi company... and considering their modus operandi is to do whatever it takes to get a photo, and/or incite a reaction and/or cause an accident or pen in a victim in his/her car to trap them and wow! get more photos!... you don't believe me, research who the stalkarazzi actually are. They're not your bestest next door neighbor. Many are here illegally, and scatter/run away when the police come asking for ID.

Orlando's an actor. What he does with his private life - including whatever restaurants he goes to - isn't something I care about. When someone forces him off the road, causes and accident, and then cycles around to take more photos of him - that's not on. But until these hyenas are called stalkers and the laws change, they can continue doing it. And hey! we'll continue posting on their sites, just like this one.

We're all stupid, just for being here, know what I mean?

(continued from last post)
Orlando's an actor. What he does with his private life - including whatever restaurants he goes to - isn't something I care about. When someone forces him off the road, causes and accident, and then cycles around to take more photos of him - that's not on. But until these hyenas are called stalkers and the laws change, they can continue doing it. And hey! we'll continue posting on their sites, just like this one.

We're all stupid, just for being here, know what I mean?

http://perezhilton.com/?p=9050#respond

interesting post from what seems to be a friend of Brent.

7:33You're the idiot!It is still cheating if you are in a committed relationship.

@ 7:33PM, no I don't know what you mean in reference to the stupid remark. I'd say Orlando is STUPID for courting the press, the media and the paparazzi. He should have learned his lessons by now. And if two people are in a committed relationship, the term IS CHEATING. If the relationship is an OPEN one, agreed to by BOTH parties, that's different. If Orlando has a problem with the stalkerazzi, the dim-witted halfwit jackass twit can avoid all the places in LA where the filthy stalkerazzi swine hang out regularly!!! As for Orlando's many 'girlfriends,' yes, I'm sure he has quite a few females he hangs off of, allowing them to use his name while he uses theirs. He's done that since 2002 or 2003. Weak actors have to resort to such gimmicks. I'm sure you'll be getting your check from Robin Baum this Friday. Thursday is a holiday. Hugs and kisses to Aileen, his manager.
@ 11:48AM, Orlando has repeatedly had his photos set up FOR YEARS with his exgirlfriend, so this is nothing new to him. He has played games with the press and media since 2003, all the while looking miserable. That miserable visage is what gave his fangirls the ammunition they needed to blame Kate for all the PR garbage. The head games and mind games played with his fans and the public have been an Orlando Bloom specialty for years.

I just read the Perez Hilton link. Towards the end, there's a very interesting tidbit about Miranda and some of her 'choices,' shall we say. As I said previously, ambitious models and actresses are NOT the best way to go when one desires privacy and/or a low key lifestyle. And Bloom sent her e-mails and text messages, which Brent came across? Oooh, so Orlando is more computer savvy than he likes to let on, aye? Too bad all that experience he's had with sooooo many "dangerous" women never seems to show itself on screen in any even remotely believable fashion in his leading man roles. Why? What's missing? I guess if his back ever gives him trouble during sex, Miranda will be understanding - as long as Orlando can help her get more publicity. Oral sex and blow jobs should do quite nicely, with a bit of cocaine on the penis and nipples, perhaps? Seems like he's making up for some lost time. Well, for about two years after breaking his back, he was unable to have sex - period (a medical fact he avoided discussing in a certain interview years ago) - and his relationship with Kate was PR, so if he didn't get much sex with her and was miserable with her, as some of his fans believe, then I guess he'll get what he can where he can. Interesting how he can hit on one model, get rejected, and then resume where he left off with another. You can't get much lower than this, Orlando. Congratulations. And you most DEFINITELY are SCREAMING for attention. Are you that desperate for attention that you'll sell yourself this way? You've cheapened yourself not only as an actor but also as a man.

I guess if they are both cheats and using each other its no wonder she didn't give a shit about Orlando coming on to Veronica. Sounds like true love based on lots of trust and respect!(NOT)

Just read the perez post by the bandmate. LOL at her pretending to be a buddhist.

If that is really Pottsy-and I believe it is since you can't make that shit up and he uses the initials of their close group of friends at the end- than how pussy whipped is Orlando? She has his sorry ass walking around carrying that stupid dog. Dude,she ani't all that. She is going to cheat on you next or try and have your baby asap.I wonder if Orlando knows that he is not the only one she cheated with or he thinks he is the man and will be shocked when he hears this. I don't think he is going to like these new revelations that he isn't the only one.

God, I hope the PR people are reading here. The cat is out of the bag.I wouldn't be surprised if we never see him with that stupid dog again and she disappears. I'm going to bet we aren't going to see any grand debut

I just emailed the DailyTelegraph in her home country and gave the links and the information and asked them to follow up with it. They are always writing fluff shit on her but hopefully they will see Brent is an Aussie too and be willing to write something critical of her.
I think those pictures and information should be sent to all the tabloids to get this ball rolling. Get them all on the case. If it is true it will all be made known.

Hmm very interesting post on Perez. Most interesting is the signature: -p & jess & b (Pottsy & Jessica Hart, model and Pottsy's girlfriend & Brent).

I think the bad Karma has already kicked him for them both. Orlando's rep and career are going downhill fast, his fans are jumping ship and the more public this new relationship becomes the more dirty little secrets will come out. A shame really but this is what happens to pathetically ambitious people who trade in their morals for fame.

we thought Orlando looked shit last week? I can't wait to see how he looks next week!
It's not so funny when you learn you are just one of the many they are cheating with. You are the cheater and the one cheated on. Does she still look that hot now??

here's the video of when Miranda was asked about this in April.It always seemed a bit off to me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtcpUrPUV20

Looks like its raining shit for Orlando today and I doubt the forcast is going to get better soon.

WOO HOO! you need to get over to Justjared! Miss Miranda was caught w/Brandon Davis last night-ran when the photogs got them! Orlando- Thy name is Dog-sh*t Cleaning Up Tool! FanGirl VooDoo indeed!

We need to get all of this over to Lainey and ONTD too. Because even though all the dots are connecting, their PR people are still powerful and this won't see any light in, well, certainly not PEOPLE(wonder if the new golden couple's debut, as Ted hinted, will be delayed?)or even US WEEKLY or anything mainstream. But Blogs are taking over and a little public humiliation can go a long way...and Pinochio has always been sooooo sensitive about his image you know.
As for the Greasy Bear thing, yeah, it is what it is, 2+2 DOES equal 4, except in St.Orlando Land, and I'm sure it will be explained away as old friends, blah blah. I will say I expected it to be at least a few months before she made Buddha Boy look a fool.
Too bad some of his emails and texts to her can't be leaked. 'Twould be a nice touch.

So, Bloomie and Miranda seem to both be habitual social climbing cheats. Ah, well. Those types of people always turn on each other...
And yes, LOL at her pretending to be a Buddhist too, but so does Bloomie, so I guess there its all equal.
And there is no way Bloom couldn't have known about Brent, not with her repeated public proclamations of LOVE Forever for Brent. Guess Bloomie just didn't care.
Sadly, I wished I believed in Karma and all that stuff and that KerrBloom would get what they deserve, but I'm afraid he'll get away with this too because people like Bloom always do.
This is depressing on so many levels.

Go Ahead and send all of this to the gossips and blogs as much as you want( I agree these skizzes deserve the humiliation)but I'm really not sure how many people will care.
However, if you forward it all to his MOM.....
oh, no, wait...he had to learn these values somewhere, right? Nevermind.

EWWWWW DAVIS! Hope Bloom's wrapping his wick. And if she pulls the old pregnant trick on him, I'd be demanding a paternity test STAT! Hope she doesn't get the chance to use that one, but Bloom seems p**sy whipped sadly.

@1:41& 1:31 I disagree. I think this might make some noise. If enough of the gossip mags and blogs know the truth then they won't be so quick to pick up on this "New Love" game that was probably going to be played with the public.If they know the public already knows then what's the point?

If that really was the bandmate on Perez and this story is true then I wonder if Orlando knew he wasn't the only one she had cheated with. Going by the gossip that was out there Orlando is said to be crazy about her.
If it is true the image of him walking around with the dog is not a good one.

@1:41& 1:31 I disagree. I think this might make some noise. If enough of the gossip mags and blogs know the truth then they won't be so quick to pick up on this "New Love" game that was probably going to be played with the public.If they know the public already knows then what's the point?

If that really was the bandmate on Perez and this story is true then I wonder if Orlando knew he wasn't the only one she had cheated with. Going by the gossip that was out there Orlando is said to be crazy about her.
If it is true the image of him walking around with the dog is not a good one.

Would this buffoon just learn how to act?

How can a man be called "sexy, hot, and beautiful" and not be able to relay that onscreen???

I mean, for heaven's sake, if you can't make a love scene with Zoe Saldana look juicy...

I'm just sayin!

London bridges...falling down...falling down...falling down

so Bloomie and his stylist are off to Japan, huh? Bet its a quick stop off to his "sensei", and then onto Australia for that AFI thingy and then the "real" show-a couple of weeks of KerrBloom PR nausea. The little storm from last week may have delayed the pr schedule a bit, but I have a feeling its going to be the Summer of 2005 all over again with an even hungrier booblehead this time.
(Poor Brent. Hope he's in NYC.)In which case, I have no respect left for Buddha Boy(since he shows so little for anyone else) and I'm outta here!
Bloomie, heres wishing you...Your Karma.

11:12 I hope they aren't that stupid to think people would fall for that. I don't think the storm is over. I think the tabloids are waiting for the right time. If these two clowns try and pull Mr and Mrs Happy Couple PR game the tabloid press will go nuts with the Brent/cheating angle. Those pictures are out there. If they do try and pull it-then people should just make noise and keep sending the information to the media.I think many were sent stuff last week so maybe they are doing some research in New York.I'm thinking some people might be ready to talk.
Did you see the pictures from Sunday lunch? He looks miserable if you look at this eyes. I hope he isn't stupid enough to still be planning a PR blitz.I was actually wishing he would have ditched her after the Brandon Davis encounter but who knows since we haven't heard anything from her since.(things in the tabloids were quotes from before last Tuesday)

With all this talk about Karma and Cheating I did a search on the web. Damn, they take cheating seriously in that belief system. I'm not sure how he could have missed that day in buddha school.
Seriously, If he goes ahead with this with no consideration as to what he has done to other people -then I'm with you 11:12-I hope the boys karma makes him crazy. If all of this is true-and it really looks like it-then what does that say about his true self? It takes a very selfish and cold hearted person to act that way over a long period of time with no thought to those who were hurt or used(Brent!). I agree with those who say he has looked horrible lately. I would like to believe at least some of that is feeling bad about hurting other people.If he now tries to showcase this chic on his arm like nothing is wrong I hope people shout it from the rooftops just what he did and don't let them forget it.

I think Bloom missed a lot of things in "buddha school". It certainly seems to just be a part of his marketing schtick as Mr. Wise and Wonderful and DowntoEarth Movie Star. If there is any sincerity its very much w/a Hollywood twist in his "practice"--self-focused, self-indulgent,and definately self-excusatory!
And I'm not saying this to offend anyone because my father was a real Buddhist, so I have the utmost respect for this. Which is why it ANNOYS me to no end when I hear Bloom and/or his fangirlies go on about it....
Oh, and FTR Bloomf**ck, my father LIVED his principles everyday, without seeking celebrity and riches(and lingerie model c*** even when she's in a relationship w/someelse). He was a physician who served(remember THAT cornerstone principle-TO SERVE- people other than yourself?)the poorest and most in need in our community. He most certainly did not "sit around and contemplate his navel" just because he wasn't SGI. Arrogant tw*t!
Through his choices and actions Bloom's been showing his true self for a long time. More fans are really beginning to wake up to it now.

You know, I've thought a lot of not so nice things about Bloom over time, but I've never thought he was "dumb" or "thick". I do think he lacks any self-reflective capability, and stubbornly refuses to take any responsibilty for the consequences of his actions(or lack of action). So I don't think he associates whats going on in his career and personal life as Karma. Hell, I don't think he believes in Karma! Buddhism, like environmentalism, is chic in Hollywood right now. And Bloom is all about being "on trend"!

Hey 11:12
You have a point but I hope that isn't what he is doing. It does seem he and Cher have gone to Japan-maybe even for a buddhist retreat of sorts(no one knows for sure yet). If he is doing that to 'cleanse the karma' (according to his belief system)then if he hooks up with her again right after isn't that asking for it again? If so then why bother?If he is going to Japan for that sort of reason then he is saying he is trying to live by his beliefs again-(like a repentant Christian?)
Maybe he saw the light and decided it wasn't worth it and ditched her for good. (especially if he researched any of the now famous 'pottsy post' and it turned up true)
According to that belief system just because she now says she is single it doesn't make their situation 'non-violent' and it is still bad karma since they were 'violent' towards Brent.(I'm not a buddhist-so I may be wrong but thats the way I understood it)

Is this the brand of buddhism he is a part of? I hope this article isn't accurate and I hope Orlando isn't giving them his money!

http://www.cultnews.com/?p=1599

If any of that is true I doubt Orlando would have seen it since celebrities in all religious sects are treated special and sheltered from abuses. In those cases they are often excused of their 'sins' by the leaders in exchange for bringing positive attention to the group by their affiliation-although it is never expressed that way it is what happens.

Wow 3:19, thank you for bringing that over, although...um... I can't say it makes me feel any better about things.
If this is true, then it might shine some light, provide a revealing frame, around Bloom's values and choices and why he thinks certain things are ok to do to other people(and I'm not just talking about the cheating).
Whoever said it above maybe right; self-involved, self-indulgent and self- exusatory indeed!

11:39 Well if bloomers keeps on acting self-exusatory and thinks he is absolved by the head buddha honcho just because he is Orlando Bloom Movie Star and not because he does the right thing, then I hope people don't let him forget about it.
If all this is true-this is about knowingly hurting another person over a long period of time. That takes lots planning and sneaking and not giving a flying fuck about anyone else but yourself. Its hard to understand the thought process of someone who could justify that kind of thing-you would have to have a very grandiose view of self.I'm still hoping the 'universe' will humble him if he won't humble himself first.

just heard at least one reason for the Japan trip is another commercial. No doubt he will take work where he can get it these days. Whats next? VH1 Reality show with him, Brandon Davis and a couple of other c-d listers sharing a house?
KEEP ON THE CASE TMZ & X17!

yep,TMZ,X17 and every other media person that can get a mic. in front of either one of those two-keeping asking them if they stand by the story that they ran into each other at the Atelier that day -then ask them about the pictures.

This is truely sad what happened to him.I think he was a nice guy at one time but just became a run of the mill arrogant selfish asshole when fame came along he believed he really was a special case. Its really a pity because being a nice guy was his main appeal and there isn't much else he can depend on to stay in favor with the public.He can't wear the cool tough guy/bad boy image well so this won't play well with his fans.He will just look like a weak hypocrite.

Anybody see Lainey's newest BI for today 12/3? Interesting last line..."deserves to lose whats left of his dwindling fanbase"?. Sleazy stuff. Lainey doesn't like Bloomie, esp. after the running from the accident stuff, but she's been relatively mum on the model thing. Maybe this is whats she's been working on instead. Maybe this is another reason for his looking like crap a lot lately.
A "legendary philanderer...clubgoing actor....". Hmmm. There were always those constant rumours of his going out to play when Miss Kat was away, his fans tried to qualify it as "just flirting"... and then the Atelier and cheating...the accident...now maybe abortion and more playa lies...I'd like to believe this isn't true-that he's not that cold hearted...but as people have said, he's sliding downhill fast. How low is he going to go(if this is true)? I don't think Buddhist beliefs "accomodate" abortion well either?

12:42 I'm no fan of the way he has been acting lately but I don't think this could be him. Or at least maybe she is exaggerating as she admits to in he colums. Many things don't fit the description.Miranda isn't trying to move to LA-she has a new apartment in NY-where most models live. She isn't trying to be a celeb like a Lauren C.-she kind of is one already as she has a career with Victoria Secrets.
I think he and Miranda might have been having a fling since April but I think the reason they made it official in Sept. or Oct is because of her breaking up with her boyfriend-or him breaking up with her depending on who you ask. Its too much of a coincidence to think that is also the time she got preggers especially since it could have also been the boyfriends baby.They were also a couple -to it seems-at least until the Victoria Secrets show on November 15th. Maybe they broke up when she was seen out with Brandon Davis only 4 days later.She didn't look heartbroken. As a model who has been doing the runway all summer and fall I am sure she knows she has to be carful about getting pregnant

I didn't take Lainey to mean Miranda in her BI- I can see your point though. I still think Lainey means someone not known at all. And I still hope it isn't him too. It being a woman's personal choice is one thing, but to be coerced/tricked like that...
Evidently Kerr and Davis have been seen around LA several times last week w/the usual definately together, canoodling (ewwwww!)blah blah....
Hopefully Bloom will go home/UK after the shoot and stay far away from her now. She did sort of make him look like a dog sitting fool....
Time to chant and pray and keep your pants zipped for awhile Bloomie(and get a Penicillin shot just in case). You need to REALLY take time to think about things now.

@3:21 Well if it was him then Miranda is the only one who it could have referred to as "making it official" since if there is someone else she is still hidden.(or am I missing something?) I doubt this reference is about him at all and like you I really hope not!

Where did you read of the Davis-Kerr sightings this week? I haven't heard a word since the 19th sighting of them.

Lainey said it wasn't him.Thank goodness.
{{To make up for the unscheduled absence – more hints on Condom-free Sleaze: Not:- Orlando Bloom- Alec Baldwin- Guy Ritchie And Mute Stones is not Renee Zellweger}}}

Oh Gee Wow. Who'd o'thunk those evol ole paps had a Ramey camera guy staking out the The Temple of the Monkeys in Katmandu Nepal just waiting to pounce on any unsuspecting Celebrity just doing his humanitarian duty/sightseeing tour. What timing! Evil Paps! Leave St. Orli alone! end sarcasm.
Seriously. What timing for these setups. I've made donations to UNICEF for years-just how much of my money is going to provide private sightseeing/PR tours for celebrities trying to repair their images? Might have to reconsider where I put my hardearned money.

i'm with you 7:34. Have we seen any pix of him visiting the REALLY hard and destitute places? NO! It's a D**n PRIVATE TOUR using the UNICEF team for security!

@7:34 You are right it was set up but to be fair I think the trip has been planned for a while and he was lucky on the timing. In that case its up to the tabloids to not let up on the Brent/Cheating/Miranda angle.

Just when you think he might actually be learning something....he shows up in HKw/the Cheating Panty Skank! Congratulations Buddha Boy, you are now officially only ONE DEGREE away from Davis, Hilton and et al!There's not enough disinfenctant in the world to hide who you really are anymore. You're a CHEAT and a LIAR... I guess all those "rumours" of you cheating on Kate probably had some bite to them....I hope this movie turns into another piece of crap for you/from you too.You deserve NOTHING of the good fortune/second chances the you've gotten! Buddhist posuer. You've been carrying on w/her for months even though she was in another relationship...but you don't give a shit-you just take what you want w/o consequence because of your status...

I'd snidely wish you your Karma (like above)too, but I don't believe in any of that crap anymore. You'll get everything in the world w/o deserving any of it.
Just go back to Hollywood and back to partying w/ your girlfriend(you're not REALLY going to try to pull that cloak and dagger/PR/"we're just friends even though she follows me everywhere" crap on your fans again? Because from most of the private chatter Ive read, they're none too impressed W/Kerr, esp. after "Greasy Bear and Co." connections, and many will not follow this time)and your "shared" circle of friends, pass around the drugs and STDs and be honest about yourself for once...that its all about The Fame and The Lifestyle...and fade away like a good little Has Been.

Hey 10:08
Be a squeaky wheel and keep reminding the blogs and tabloids of the Condo pictures and such.I think some of them might be waiting for them to come out first. I don't think the pretty new couple of 2008 will fly here in the states where she isn't worship-as opposed to her home where so far they have turned a blind eye to it all. I wonder if Jay won't talk to the press as it will screw up his new career but that doesn't mean others won't. If they don't give a fuck and want to be cheaters-fine, but that doesn't mean they have to get away with it in the public eye. I like you thought he might have learned something but it still seems he doesn't give a shit. So fine, keep the Karma coming.
The Brandon Davis connection, yeah, thats an interesting one. He has now officially made it in Hollywood and is linked to him and Paris Hilton. Way to go buddha boy. It has been asked on other boards just what is it that attracts stars to Brandon Davis and I think we all know the answer. I think we also have to see that it might be him that doesn't mind that connection.They said it was all Kate-well maybe Orlando had the same problem. Of course the fangirls could not comprehend that. You are also right about Kate with cheating. It all makes you want to rethink that now. However, unlike you I don't think he will totally get away with it all. It might not happen tomorrow but it will catch up with him. Hey, Leif Garret anyone? Scott Baio? There were both "heart-throbs".Sadly I wouldn't be surprised if that is how he ends up at this point.

10:08 and 11:12,

Sad to say but he WILL get away w/it- in addition to his travels, I think they've been repositioning their PR plans for "the pretty new couple of 2008". Interesting the quiet coming from her camp lately-the pulling back.
Yeah, I thought that meant they were over too, that he'd woken up to a few things.We weren't the only ones. Guess not. He's really gotten her to tone down the "we're friends wink-wink" stuff. Wouldn't be surprised to find out she's jumped PR ship to Robin and co. She's obviously using him for exposure, but he certainly seems up for the game-I guess that's the type of relationship he likes.
I think a lot of people owe Kate an apology(and this comes from someone who is not a Kate fan).

I don't think he minds the Davis and other slime connections either. Sadly. And for obvious reasons. I guess you could also say he's now only 2 degrees removed from Tara Reid too.

Guess all those fans who've said it can't be true(those apostles of L-O-G-I-C)because there has been absolutely no photo proof have their pictures now. Wonder if they'll reconsider the condo info. Or the infamous Pottsy Post. So many people dismiss the blogs, gossips, Tabs and"sources", but it seems there always turns out to be a kernel of truth to things. Granted, the embellishments can be silly, but the nugget is still accurate.
Accurate on the private conversations amongst fans too...I am one who won't be sticking around for this sh** again.
Most fans seem leery of her, to put it nicely, but privately "skank" is used quite a bit. And respect for him has , um, fallen.

10:08,
I am so sorry that you've been hurt. I won't jump on your a** for it like so many of his fans do,lecturing on expectations,and how its really YOUR fault,blah blah blah. All you've done is buy what was being sold, in good faith, from a probably very good heart.
Your good heart. He's received the benefit of a world full of Good Vibes if you will, and hasn't proven to be deserving of a lot of it. I'm just so sorry you've, and a lot of others who won't necessarily admit it, been hurt.

I hoped he had woken up and taken some responsiblity as well but it doesn't look that way. I'm sure though that the travel plans were already in motion before all the news hit the web last month. Who knows what is really going through his mind. If he didn't look into the information in that Pottsy post(like the lawyer) than he is a bigger fool than I thought and deserves what is coming to him. If she is spending time with Brandon Davis in any fashion than that speaks VOLUMES about who she is.Fuck what her fluff PR/Image is sending out. People are getting way hip to that with her already.I heard alot of people in the fashion world hate her so maybe some of them will come out soon.
Seriously, what kind of heart does a person have to have to cheat over a long period of time like that?
Seems day by day more comes out about buddha boy. Maybe its just a matter of time-hopefully not much time-before his other problems become public.If that doesn't wake him the fuck up nothing will.
I saw where he is wearing his buddha necklace around his neck when he travels. Does he have no shame?

Speaking of the Pottsy post did anyone keep reading the link after that and see added comments? It seemed someone came on as 'J'. He made it sound like 'Pottsy' wouldn't write that "even if it was true" and then goes on to slam Miranda for being fake. Interesting that he didn't take the time to say it wasn't true. I thought perhaps the real Pottsy might have really written it but then backed off since he didn't realize it would be copied and pasted all over the web the way it did.Her friends have posted there before so it isn't unheard of.
Her agent is close to the band as well so its interesting that no one took the time to deny it and it isn't like they are the kind not to talk to the press.
Someone else who claims to know her came on as well that night-probably after they all got word of what was happening in cyberspace. She warned people not to fall for her crap. I sure hope Orlando or someone in his camp is taking heed.

Wow... All this from a freakin "Potsy" post made by someone on the internet. Hell, that post could have been made by me, and the whole world would be speaking. If Pottsy wanted some real attention to how "horrible" Miranda is he would sell it to the press, and he would even make some money, not on some dumb gossip rag comment box.
-Sounds like a lot of you are bitter ex-orlando fans, trying to make him look bad because your perfect fandom was ruined when you started believing the tabloids that tried to make him look bad.

please looking to elflady site. you will see 2 pics about him and miranda. we were sleeping while they were together in Hong Kong. I so disappointed...

please looking to elflady site. you will see 2 pics about him and miranda. they were together in Hong Kong. I so disappointed...noooo..Orlando please... this girl is wrong choice...

8:11
You wish!
First of all the "pottsy post" is just a small part of it. That is more about Miranda than Orlando. I know many people who have good reason to think its true about her.
But about Orlando, it is pretty common knowledge they were sneaking around on Brent for MONTHS! There is more to follow I am sure. It is not the tabloids making him look bad it is his OWN ACTIONS.

Back to Pottsy: Her friend have been known to post on that site many times so it is not unheard of. As for Miranda, why would you expect any less from a girl that proudly hangs around Brandon Davis and his crowd?

At 7:59

Common knowledge? Really? What? Where? Do you REALLY think the "common knowledge" on a GOSSIP RAG is really factual? If so, that's kind of sad.

So Miranda hangs with Brandon Davis now....after what? 3 pictures of them were taken together?

Sure, Orlando and Miranda may be together, but what's so bad about that? They have just as much freedom to date whoever, just like I or YOU can date anyone we want. It's a bit sad that its different with Orlando and Miranda because their famous.

I feel sorry for Orlando. First, everyone bashed Kate. Now that she's gone, people regret it, and have now moved on to Miranda.

Im confused by the "Orlando's own actions" part. Besides pictures and gossip, what kind of actions are you talking about?

Oh....you mean that CAR CRASH! Where 2 cars of paps and fans were chasing him and made him ram into a parked car? And then the paps have the DECENCY to make it TABLOID NEWS by blaming Orlando for everything? Yea, I get what you mean....totally shows the type of person Orlando is, huh? What a jackass......

9:05
I didnt say the "common knowledge" came only from a blog site. Many people know about Miranda. She has admited to being friends with Brandon as well. The cheating is also well known -not just on a few blog sites.It will all come out-trust! The problem isn' that they are dating the problem is they cheated over a long period of time with no respect for the other person. That is a sick and mean thing for anyone to do but even more so for two people who go around telling the world how spiritual and enlightened they are.

If you still think Orlando wasn't drunk or high at the crash than you have serious denial issues! The fact that you said someone "made him ram into a parked car" just shows you still have your blinders on. He is a grown man-no one made him do anything that night-including hit on another girl after just having been in New York with Miranda.

At 7:33

If this common knowledge isnt from gossip sites, exactly where is it from? How do you know, for a fact, that they were cheating around?

Maybe you're the blind one...obviously the paps cut him off in the lane. If you watched the video and LISTENED to any of the witnesses talling, or read any of the police documents, you would know, and see that the MAIN cause for the accident was NOT Orlando. THAT's proof. So what do you have? Your conscience?
That's pathetic.

those pics are (Orlando-Miranda-together)in Orlandolove site. Not Elflady. Orlandolove site-Paparazzi Pictures- Orlando in Honk Kong Dec.10- page:5

4:30
It isn't obvious the paps cut him off-thats just what he said. Even if they did-he was still drunk and or high while driving.Of course the police aren't going to make a big deal of it now since they want this to go away so they don't look bad for not giving him the proper test at the proper time.
LOL at you telling me to watch the video-that makes him look worse since he is acting incredibly out of character-especially the one in the car with the model's bofriend and the other one with him walking alone down the street giggeling with the paps. Yeah, that was normal Orlando behavior.A police report is not proof by the way-they state what they think happened and can be wrong.

I'm not telling you how I know about the cheating. It's best when things come out in the right doses and at the right time. I'll just say I trust who I was given information from.
Why don't you just wait and see what happens and stop coming back to a blogsite that you say you don't believe anyway.

Well one things for sure, its pretty obvious that she threw over "the love of her life" for Mr. Big Movie Star the minute he came sniffing around. And yes, from what I'VE also heard from my fashion industry friends, she and Buddha Boy have been cheating for months. Orlando KNEW about Brent too, but he still did all the pursuing. So much for his forlorn "everybody treats relationships like car trade ups in Hollywood" crap! Just another It boy lie to keep the delusional fans ovaries squeeing!

And here we go with the sneaking around and denials again. She wnt w/him to HK-he was only there for two days, and HK is NOT just a hop and skip from Sydney or NY or LA or wherever-not a hey I'm in the neighborhood "dear friend" lets have dinner tonight-flight. She's shadowing him on business trips now-that's a relationship a lot farther along than just 3 weeks from breaking up w/your boyfriend!
I don't know whats going on in his head these days...can't any of his family and friends who supposedly love him so much talk to him? Or are THEY too invested in his fame to want to help? Or maybe their own compasses are so screwed they think its fine to do this? What's it going to take...an overdose...an STD...an "accidental" pregnancy...WHAT?

I'm at the point of wishing he'd fall off a cliff or out of a plane or something just to stop all of this "I'm just another worthless celebrity douche" behavior. Imean take awat the only thing that matters to him-HIS FAME!

6:05,
I think you and I have been hearing the same things....
I wish/hope that you're right about more coming out, but sadly I don't think it will. Orlando's rich and famous and will get away with everything he ever does.

And no, he doesn't believe in personal responsibilty or Karmic consequences either. He and his family ARE NOT BUDDHISTS! THEY ARE SGI.BIG-BIG! DIFFERENCE!!!!! His "sensei" has been charged with extortion, rape and murder in more than one country. THAT'S Orlando's moral compass! SGI is a cult! They've been excommunicated by all the other Buddhists because of their
questionable practices and "recruitment " and fundraising tactics. When "almost-anything-goes" Buddhists excommunicate you it means something! Bloom has NO worthy character!!!!!

2:12
If what you say is true that is really twisted. I've been thinking how weird it is that Orlando got Miranda into Buddhism all the while he is cheating with her. That's like a christian or minister sleeping with someone all the while trying to convert them. Twisted,no? I don't know much about SGI other then visiting a couple of links so I'm not sure what they believe different than normal Buddhist.

To the poster above that-I agree with you except for the point that maybe Orlando wasn't doing ALL the chasing. I think he knew what he was doing but so did she. I think she was just telling people that Orlando was chasing her more to give excuses for his phone calls or whatever.She was playing the innocent one-just like in that video that someone posted earlier in the thread. Either way-minor point and I hope it all comes out or he hits rock bottm to wake up.

I wonder if the HongKong thing was planned a while ago.Obviously his Japan,Nepal,Praque(for commercial they say)then HK were planned in advance for work.Most likely they hadn't seen each other for those few weeks considering what her schedule was like- so the plan was probably to meet there and either go to OZ together or for her to see him before she went home for the holidays since the last article saidshe was going home for a month.

I would LOVE to know what happened when Orlando heard the stuff about the lawyer AND the other guy. Obviously he can't say much about cheating since he was doing it to but I gotta wonder if that hurt the ego a bit. I think it's funny that he finally got a model but now everyone is going to know she was with 2-3 other people AT LEAST at the same time.(Brent/lawyer/Orlando) Kind of takes away the bragging rights a little bit doesn't it buddha boy? You had to share her!
Also, if what Pottsy said was true then Brent broke up with her over the lawyer. Does that mean Orlando was really her plan B anyway?
I'm sure all this stuff got back to him, his people and maybe even family. I just hope someone will sift through it and knock some sense into him.

I can say I am not an Orlando fan, but I'm a huge Miranda fan... a lot of this sounds like bs, but you know what they say....gossip is gossip. If it makes people feel happy, and content in believing all this in a whim, than so be it. If said "sources" are even factual, then my fondness of Miranda drops down a bit. Until the truth comes out from anything better than a "Pottsy post" or from someone who posts here, than I certainly won't believe it.

As for the whole Orlando thing.....Well, I can say he is one of the MORE level-headed actors. He didn't really seem to be acting out of character the night of the car crash. Smiling and greeting the paps seem a bit more normal than ducking away under a hood, and walking with his face down. People who don't believe he WASNt drunk or DUI are just out to get him because he's famous. If he really was DUI, what gain do they have in NOT arresting him? If you're saying the police didn't test him because he was a celebrity, than why are they easily willing for people like Lindsay, Paris, and Britney? I think if Orlando really were drunk or high, they would have actually jumped at the chance to find fault. They're not that stupid to just let him go. There are legal consequences....you know?

@6:11
To sum it up:
1)People aren't saying he wasn't arrested or tested because he was a celebrity. They are saying since the police fucked up and didn't test him at the scene-at the right time -and probably not at the hospital either-they are dropping it since that would come out andmake them look bad. HE WAS NOT TESTDED. If they charged him with a hit and run-which the video shows him leaving-the evidence would show he was not tested. The LAPD does not need more bad press.

2)There is much more too this than the 'pottsy post'.People in New York know alot.

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TSK, TSK Miranda....a DOUBLE CHIN darling!? and a little tummy poof too? You're slipping dear. But don't worry, just stick w/Orli Worli for a little longer and you'll be much much thinner-and blonder too-in no time I'm sure!

5:54,
I don't know. I HOPE he has someone in his life who still has the courage to be straight w/him, but very sadly, I think any family or friends who genuinely loved him and would help keep him grounded were pushed out a LOOONNGG time ago. What's left is a punch of ass kissers who yes, are very invested in his fame too. Even if they call themselves family(his cousin has always given me the creeps).
I don't think Bloom's family and upbringing was all that warm and fuzzy and emotionally secure to tell the truth. I don't think there was a lot of genuine connection;just a bunch of self absorbed individuals swirling around each other. Have you seen the Christmas card sent to Kabloom? Warm and loving body language there, yea?

9:39
LOL yes that card was a joke! Can anyone post a link? Aside from the picture-the same same cheesy stamped 'greeting' in exactly the same way every year is embarrassing. Couldn't Orlando at least make a separate stamp with just his first name like eveyone else? It's so obvious but yet the fangirls will giggle with glee that they were even thrown a bone at Christmas.

Ditto on the cousin! He ALWAYS creeped me out. Even more so since he made those STUPID comments on ET about Orlando NEVER DRINKING. Yeah, he had no problem looking into the camera and bold face lying.

forgot to add--
Didn't 'baste'(gag) say something recently in an article-the same one where orli talks about people trading up-that orli was fortunate that he had his close circle of friends and advisers that would kick his ass if he ever started acting like a hollywood asshole? Well now is the time to kick his ass, peeps! But yeah, I won't hold my breath either. Remember 'Baste' use to date the same woman as Flaver Flav(BN) so I'm going to guess his moral compass will be a little off kilter.

10:25-
Bast didn't just date her. He was MARRIED to her!!! YEA. Bast has been into the celebrity culture for a very very long time;and he seems to have had an influence on Bloomie and the "women" he chooses. Which is why no one in his circle probably bats an eye at the Kerr thing. They don't value love and relationships(all types)at all. People are just things to be used and worn as trinkets. Relationships are just commodities...ladder rungs...cold.
It always makes me laugh when I hear fans squeel about how great a husband and father he's going to be...OH REALLY? WHY? A loving trusting primary relationship between two grownups that helps make a loving and secure home for children is NOT what was modeled for him! Men just f**k and beget children then split, leaving all responsibility to women.Certainly not loving or valuing partner or progeny. Bast even said in an interview after the Antartica trip that Bloom was like their grandfather who had "wanderlust"; would just up and leave and go forth and have adventures(and affairs I'm sure) in the world. Who always got left behind w/all the work, huh? Some rolemodels.
I don't think Bloom has any skills to even build a loving lasting life relationship w/anyone at this point. Which is why the girls will always be temporary,pliable and under 25.

Where does the story about Harry Bloom being aware and accepting of Colin fathering Sonia's children come from? Is that just a myth created by the fangirls so the "St. Orlando" can work in their minds? Do we know for sure Sam is also Colin's or is it just assumed?

I agree that he doesn't seem to have the skills for relationships -where would he have learned that? Not home and NOT Hollywood. If all the sneaking around was just about two single people wanting to keep their personal life private-or even about just wanting to have fun with no commitment for a while there would be no problem.It's just that they both knew someone else was being lied to and would be very hurt and they obviously didn't think twice about it.And apparantly she was doing it with several people over the years.That is damn cold.

You guys do know that Kerr was engaged when she was around 18-20 don't you? He was just convicted of extortion, money laundering and absconding w/other funds -stealing!-. Nice Buddha boy, Nice company you choose.
So let's see. That's Brent/Bloom/Lawyer guy/Davis/convicted felon. She's a "choice" piece ain't she?

yeah, I heard that.
She went from him -who was about 10years older then her at 18-to Brent-who she cheated on according to Pottsy at least 3 times-and now to Bloom-one of the people she was cheating with.

I think she is just looking for the better gig. Maybe it will take Orlando getting taken in this situation to wake up. I don't think Orlando is going to want to play the Hollywood "it couple" game this time around so she might get bored and move on if she thinks she can find someone who will.

This link has had lots of interesting information. I think I will link it to other threads/blogs when Orlando subjects come up again to get the word out there.

At 7:16

"1)People aren't saying he wasn't arrested or tested because he was a celebrity. They are saying since the police fucked up and didn't test him at the scene-at the right time -and probably not at the hospital either-they are dropping it since that would come out andmake them look bad. HE WAS NOT TESTDED. If they charged him with a hit and run-which the video shows him leaving-the evidence would show he was not tested. The LAPD does not need more bad press."

THe police didn't test him because they don't need to. According to my brother, who was a police officer, and NOW serves in Iraq, police only test people who either act, look, or their actions suggested they were drunk. If Orlando showed none of that, than obviously they don't need testing. You honestly believe the cops test everyone in every car accident? And that's where the "celebrity" thing comes into play. People say the cops didnt test him and let him off BECAUSE he was a celebrity, and thats what I was arguing to.

And to the hit-and run thing, iF YOU ARE AT THE SCENE WHEN THE POLICE ARRIVE, THAT IS NOT A HIT AND RUN. Orlando was at the scene when the police was there. The suv full of fans and paps who cut Orlando off were NOT at the scene when the police arrived. hmmmm. So really, if you're talking about the law, who should be charged with hit-and run?

6;31-
So. It's the SUVS full of fans(BWAAAHAAA! Oh the irony)and evol paps who caused this accident right? And they have it all on film from the apt complex security right? Which means they probably got plates , right? Soooo...why have there been no arrests, no news coverage, no lawsuits, no NOTHING since then? because they have nothing about SUVS fulL of fans and photogs cutting off Bloom. Bloom caused this accident and got off because the police did not test him at the scene.

3:50
Yea, go ahead and link away. The Pottsy Post(hee. makes me giggle even though I do believe its quite true)is just now being "discovered" on one of the more mainstream Bloom boards. Sadly it will probably be willfully ignored because it indicates some bad stuff about Buddha Boy...
But I will say his fans do not seem to be impressed w/HER at all. All her blatant PRing and then showing up all cuddly with Greasy Bear has them on edge.
I think I have to disagree about Bloom not being up for the Hollywood "It" couple game though. I think he still wants it desperately. He still wants that whole Hollywood Life package. Who knows. Maybe Kerr is a better fit for the Hollywood Wife role w/all its illusion and fakery. Makes me sad to think that Bloom would give up chances at real love and relationships just because the woman might not be "acceptable"(and therefore worthless) by HW standards. But let's face it, Bloom doesn't seem to have the strength of character(or talent)of say Matt Damon. Goodness,even after having said all that I'll admit I hope Bloom isn't THAT shallow.

7:27
I'm not sure what to believe and I hope he isnt THAT shallow either. I think he is a mixed bag-like the rest of us. Dating a model isn't all bad-some of them seem nice and have normal lives now-like Heidi Klum. He hasn't only gone after models or even the most beauiful actresses-Kate B was average looking. The problem IS THE CHEATING!
Most of the rest of the things he is accused of I can be compassionate about since if I'm honest I think I might have fucked up a bit if I was given fame and a bucket of money. We aren't all good or all bad. Live and learn. But there is NO exuse for cheating and hurting others just to serve yourself.

I'm also glad that Pottsy Post made its way around the net. I wonder if someone like Cher who seems to be a strong woman and a good friend can see clearly through this. Bloom is quilty as sin for cheating but by most accounts miss Kerr is very manipulative and comes across as miss sweet. I wonder if the Pottsy Post taught him anything. I'm not sure why I still have an ounce of sympathy for him-but I still hope he wises up to her.

what a girl this Miranda???? wow...

what a girl? like a girl: sly, ambitious, heartless, cruel... and she wants to be famous. and almost famous...anybody known her name before Orlando.

5:21
I'm not 1:49 but I don't think he/she was giving her a compliment. I read it to mean "what a girl, what a piece of work".

She is also still lying about her age so bring it up everytime you see it. She seems to have lost 2 years in the past few months and gone from 24 to 22.

no miranda, no miranda, no miranda, no miranda.........

well even more pictures turned up of them at holiday parties in LA.No more hiding. Of course he was drunk and he looked hunched back and a mess. Not too sure what is going to become of this but he is a mess right now. Typical empty celebrity -void on the inside trying to fill up with women and drink(and maybe more).

He is still with this girl and still in Hollywood's clubs.He will come out the LOSER.

I'm really really sad about him.I hope one day he will found a lovely, graceful, kind-hearted girl (like Kate Bosworth) He looked unhappy in those pics although that tinimini Miranda with him.

step 1-)Miranda goes to Hollywood. (to be continued)

12:40
I never thought I would see the day when Orlando fans were praying for Kate to come back.
However, I think it's clear that maybe Orlando is attracted to this kind of a person because that is the kind of person he is too.Neither have shown any class at all. Hard to admit for some fans but likely true.
At least Kate seems happy now with James. Orlando looks a mess who knows the real reasons why. Some people on other boards were suggesting that he is having lots of other problems as well-maybe drinking or worse. How many times have we seen pictures of him drunk as a skunk since the summer? Either its getting worse or it's just that he isn't even trying to hide the cracks anymore.

step 2-)Miranda meets Leonardo DiCaprio and Ridley Scott. (to be continued)

Praying for Kate... Yes. Gwyneth Paltrow-Brad Pitt and Kate Bosworth-Orlando Bloom. These are my favorite couples all times. And I think tinimini Miranda brings a bad luck to Orlando.I want to write again: anybody known her name before Orlando...

sorry... Brent or Jay G Lyon which one is her ex-boyfriend? Or both???? lol

step 3-) Miranda goes to her country with a big smile on her face. Paps wait impatiently at the airport for run after her. They want to take photograrhs and take too much to who is name's blooming...(to be continued)

6:07
Brent is his real name but he goes by Jay for his music career

To 6:33 thanks.

To 6:33 sorry again...what is the meaning of "3 whiskers". I didn't understand. Thanks again...

İs immorality beauty?

I think Orlando must stay away from Miranda. She doesn't seem nice person.

There is a vid in the youtube. (Orlando Bloom Leaving Villa).

(just promise to keep your heart broken) this words for me, for my disappointed...

Yeah, he knows what happened last time, as do we all. Unfortunately X17 seems to forget. It is that kind of constant harrassment and agressive behavior that caused that accident. There is nothing wrong with taking pictures of celebrities but you don't have to attack them. Your behavior is going so far overboard that I do hope you all are given a reality check before more people are killed or hurt.

to December 21- 5:32 am; yes, you're right.And she is a liar.

Just saw in "Who" mag from OZ that Mirnada told them where she and Orlando are spending the New Year's.

How tacky. I don't know why I'm shocked but I thought Orlando wouldn't do this again. Why don't they just make the whole relationship a reality show.

to 4:27 I didn't find that news. Where is it?

Sisters and brothers, happy new year. I wish you good-luck,joy,health,peace... And X-17, I wish for you too...