There is nothing better than telling it exactly like it is.

Well if that not the pot calling the kettle black. Who does she think she is.... what a big fat joke.

Don't hold back now.

Roseanna is garbage. Every time she opens her mouth sit falls out. She has 0 respect. Idiots with grudges for the person she is bashing only care about what she is saying.

thank you Roseann Barr, THANK YOU!

I don't care much for Brangelina either. Homewreckers who adopt a kid from every country to make themselves look like such good people. Yes they are beautiful children, but really, what are they trying to prove? And how long do you think they will last? Boy that's going to be some child support for one of them.

THANK YOU!!!! Roseanne, like her or not, speaks her mind and says exactly what we all know to be true. They are so over-rated and weird at best!!!

The same old Jennifer Aniston fan riding the board looking for any blog that put Brad or Angelina down. We see why John Mayer dumped Jennifer Aniston and her mentally ill fan.
Every body knows Roseanna is a sick fat bi#ch.

Can you please tell me why it hurt you so much, that people give his own money to charity? I just cannot understand, why you want poverty, hunger, desperation, to be hidden. I think that it's a good think to speak about it. And this Roseanne is a idiot for me.

Roseanne is a brainless dolt who is too crude, overbearing, and obnoxious to ever take the time to educate herself before spewing verbal vomit!

A washed has been looking for attention!!! She needs to go back in hiding. No - one cares what Roseanne thinks or feels. Her opinions mean nothing to NORMAL people. Only people with closed minds would take part in her childish comments. GROW UP!!!

Go Roseanne! I effin love Roseanne & always have! Now I have reason to love her more. Angelina and Brad are such phonies and I wish people would stop treating them like saints.

OH THANK THE LORD!!!! FINALLY! A woman who has THE BALLS (maybe literally?) to tell it like it is and point out EVERY FUCKING HYPOCRACY that is the brand known as "BRANGELINA".

It is so refreshing to hear this ESPECIALLY THE PART ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN FOREIGN POLICY AFFECTS IN 3rd WORLD NATIONS.

HEY ROSANNE! Ever think that maybe Angelina wants to maintain the chaos in these 3rd world nations so that she and that asshole she stole can continue to illegally adopt children to sustain her PR image machine?

For fuck's sake they are NOT ROYALTY.

She's got a point

I love Roseanne!

Finally! Finally a person has the balls to say it how it is.

Jolie-Pitt are hypocrites.

Roseanne is a nut case!

Roseann is a nut case!

WHO GIVES A FLYING SHIITE WHAT THIS UGLY AZZ OLD ANCIENT AZZ HORE SAYS.
HER KIDS HAVE MADE JAILS THEIR HOME-BEEN THROUGH 18 DIIFERNT DADDIES AN SHE SMOKES CRACK WITH THEM.
ROSEANE BISH FCK YOU AN YOUR FAKE AZZ OLD PEOPLE GIVEAWAYS ON THE RADIO. SMOKE YO DOUGH ON CRACK. KANT AFORD SHIIT NO MORE. BISH HOWS THOZE STOMACH STAPLES HOLDIN UP. TIED OLD AZZ HOE!!

Hell yeah! She hit the nail on the head about McCain and Reagan.

I wonder who wrote this story? Words sound familiar? Dayum, dayum, dayummm?

Rosane needs to SHUT THE FACK UP!! RB kids are nothing but trouble,tried to burn her house down. RB claims she was an alien named sybil with 12 personalities, also said she was from outer space an was only here for a short time. she cant talk.

Roseanne is a nut case! Who cares what she says?

the more you begin to investigate what we think we understand, where we came from, what we think we are doing--the more you begin to see we've been lied to. We've been lied to by every institution, what makes you think for one minute that the religious institution has remained untouched. The religious institutions of this world are at the bottom of the dirt. The religious institutes of this world are put there by the same people who gave you your Government, your corrupt education, who set up your national banking cartels, because our masters don't give a damn about us, about you, or about your family. All they care about is what they have always cared about. We have been misled away from the truth and what is real in this world. Politics is a bunch of phony crap that matters less then you think. Way less.

I prefer hypocrites to selfish, what the hell did this Roseannehave done for humanity? And vote a candidate because he is black is racist, black people need their capacity to be recognized, they don't need pity or favoritism. So she is more hypocrite than the JP.

yes did'nt she bring up on oprah her dad ra ped her in a past life.

RoseAn gave her kids away til thay were older. The daughter had a bad time. They resented her for that. I heard that she spent her fotune on her husbands. We know she does drugs in Las Vegas,Im from Reno.

Did'nt she waste her money on Tom and her other young husband.Tummy tucking, botox, million dollar homes, cars. suv's limos, young dciks???? I would take it if she was'nt a liar & a loser. HW hates her. Eh she accused her dad of child molestation.

SHE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, BRANGELINA ARE CUNTS!

And this comes from a woman who purposely screwed up singing the national anthem on tv grabbing her crotch and spitting.

Yea, sure, what comes out of her mouth is nothing but TRASH !

I have just become a HUGE Rosanne Barr FAN! Way to go Rosie, you tell it like it is g/f!! About time someone had the integrity to tell the truth about that fantasy-land couple......

You should read some of the other posts in her blog. She writes about her cuticles! Who the hell cares about her cuticles?

Roseanne is an absolute has-been nut case.

the only thing Roseanne has is her blog. Ho humm..... Someone is looking for attention huh Rosie?
Hey Roseanne, you're a whackjob and everyone knows it.
I NEVER read about you helping anyone.

Roseanne has a point. Why would a person who gives a crap about humanity support pro war republican party? That doesn't make sense. Angelina says she wants to see which president candidate cares more about helping suffering people around the world? That's so funny. Shouldn't she pick the one who didn't vote for Irag war to start human suffering.

Angelina hides behind "I am a humanitarian" so you guys can't criticize her sleeping with a married man and stealing poor Aniston's husband.

Angelina is a phony. Only dumb asses can't tell.

HER WORDS ARE SO TRUE. TOO BAD SHE CAN'T LIVE UP TO THEM.

Finally...someone has put Angelina and Brad in the "correct" light....they make me sick.

rose ann is a crack head lmao heeeeee tom said the multiple personality bi tch was crazy heeeeeeeeeeeee she has two have a blog cuz she broke from buyin sheet she could not afford broke hoe lamooooooooooooooooo yeah we listen to broke roe the crazy hoe jen gots good friends lmaoooooooooooooooooo

Last year she was sayin nice things bout b&a. WTF. One of the most distubin nasal hag voices you'll hear is hers. Stick to what you do best cow- eat and snort!

Brangelina is the sick joke....all they do is adopt "pretty kids" and act like the mother of the world. What kind of joke of a parent is she when she cant get along with her father. Look at the filthy kids in People magazine-who is so stupid to pay for pictures of dirty kids who are in much need of a bath and grooming and Jolie cant get dressed and Pitt is sporting a wife beater....ohhhh the humanity! You go roseanne

she talks badly toward her family. she hates them an says her multiple personalites write her blog an her standup. she said her mom an dad both physically an sexually abused her. she fought with producers of her show an dumped er furst clerk store husband for tom ,she says she is depress an hates peeps, one year claiimed too luv tom arnold and divorce him the next year.she never cares how her kids feel durin these manee divorces. she is a mess. kids too.

She gave a baby of her's away for adoption.

Nice to see an American make an intelligent comment for once. Roseanne Barr is 100% correct.

At least brad and angie adopt kids with no homes an r sick.
hogrose bipolar mult.pers. azz gives her kids away.
Nerves of her talking down celebs wit her mental problems. haz been.

i'm glad someone decided to call them out. Angelina is sooo fake! How come you never see her WHOLE family together. You only see her with one kid at a time. That's because she has all these nannies at home taking care of them because she can't handle all of them now. And what happened to her saying that when she adopted the first child and i think the second that she was going to stay at home with those kids. How many more kids has she had and how many more movies as she made? she is such a liar!

İrma is a cow is a cow!

All the crazies support Obama...why is that???

well well who is this old woman??

is she a real woman dude, looks dudish and fat.

smokimg to much weed obese sl ut.
somebody need attention. has she adopted- raised anyones elses kids- gave money too charity not hash dealers-Hell to the no- da career is dead. brang angee and brad up for attention. you didnt raise yur own kids sluttt.

Roseanne needs to get with the cat lady on The Simpsons to make any sense..

Maybe she's looking for attention, maybe she's nuts, maybe she does drugs, maybe she's not a role model but at least she speakes her mind, and guess what...SHE'S RIGHT!!!! SHE SAID THE TRUTH!!!! Angelina Jolie is a bad, evil, manipulative woman and Brad Pitt is just a douchebag, if people say Katie Holmes is a robot, well, think again and SEE BRAD PITT!!! He really IS a robot, and all that is double morality, a few years back people (and media) were talking about how twisted Angelina was, about her crazy bad habits, sex in a parking lot, wearing blood around her neck, making out with his brother and a loooooooooooooot of stuff, she's not a good person, she just preteneds so people like her, and she's just using the babies for her own benefit, to look lika a good woman that WE ALL KNOW she's not, I hope someday soon people realize how big liars they are, OK, they give away millions of dollars to help 3rd world countries in Africa, first of all, why do they talk about it? why do they send to the media documentes about their "help" that's not doin' it just for charity or for havin' a big heart, is just about promotion, to get more and more money, they invest 3 mil, worldwide media talk about them, they're in the spotlight, producers want them to asure box office gold, so, those 3 mil easily become in 40 mil (at least) a year (each one of them) so, it sounds like a good investment to me... THANKS ROSEANNE BARR all that you said is true! I officialy love you now! = )

i wouldn say it in that way. but shes is right. if i had three children like she have, i would think better what i say about republicans. but about the money: c'mom roseanne, it's THEY'RE MONEY AND THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO WITH IT. IF THEY SAY THAT THEY ARE SAVING THE EARTH WITH 3 MILLIONA I WOULD BELIEVE IT. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE AS RICH AS THEY ARE AND DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT OTHERS.

SO SHUT UP ROSEANNE! CAUSE AT LIST THEY ARE TRYING.

I DONT LISTEN TO A NEVER BEEN HORE.
SHE CANT BULLY PEEPS AJ&BP INTO DECISIONS.
IT ANIT HER BIZNESS.SHE DONT KNOW THEM.
DID AJ BULLY HER INTO NOT GIVING AWAY HER FCKING KIDS, DID AJ TRY BULLING THAT SOW INTO SAVING HER MONEY AND SPENDING IT ON HER KIDS INSTEAD OD WEED AN CRACK- NO.
I DONT LISTEN TO PEEPS WHO ARE MAKING NOISE FOR ATENTION- WONT TAKE THEM SEAROUSLY. SHE WAS SINGING THERE PRAISES A FEW MONTHS AGO-
HER OWN LIFE IS FCK UP.
WHAT FCKING PERSONALTY IS TALKIN THIS TIME? SHE SAID SHE HAD OVER A 1000. CLEAN HER OWN SHIT HOUSE UP FURST, HER TRUTH OR HER MUTILPLES. BTCH CANT TALK.
AN IT ANIT HER BIZWAX.
IM VOTING WHO THE FCK I PLEASE, AN AJ DO YOU! HOW YOU CALLIN PEEPS NAMES BY BEING A FAT BISH BULLY, WHEN U ARE FCK UP YUR DAM SELF. BIG BULLY BISH VEGAS SHOW IS FAILING. CALLS OUT TOP CELEBS FOR ATENTION.HATE HER.

Roseanne sounds just like Rosie O'Donnell, jealous, hateful and stupid. this is the ONLY way these old washed up has beens can get any type of attention. i can't imagine what kind of people would go on their "blogs" to read their asinine crappy opinions of the world. i am SO sure that Angie and Brad give a shit about her opinion!! NOT!!! she started out as trailer trash, made some money and is STILL trailer trash! the picture with her nose wrinked up makes her look like the pig she is!

1:26 You are right. Roseanne has no affiltive with the Jolie Pitt family.
No one listens to Roseanne Barr anyways. She made herself a worse fool. The Jen Aniston fans do not care for Roseanne they like she spoke against Brad. 1:07 IS EXAMPLE. Roseanne is being a useless careless big mouth a@@hole. Nothing New. I heard her son was in prison. She won't speak too her adopted daughter.

1:26 You are right. Roseanne has no affiltive with the Jolie Pitt family.
No one listens to Roseanne Barr anyways. She made herself a worse fool. The Jen Aniston fans do not care for Roseanne they like she spoke against Brad. 1:07 IS EXAMPLE. Roseanne is being a useless careless big mouth a@@hole. Nothing New. I heard her son was in prison. She won't speak too her adopted daughter.

oh please no one gives a rats ass what that jealous washed up bitch has to say..everyone is has a right to their opinion but some people need to to keep their mouths shut..hate to break it to you rosanne..no one cares what you think

if you cared enough to research Roseannes personal history, she can't run her own life, let alone comment on someone elses! except for making money off the sitcom, she has pretty much been a total failure in life, a total failure as a wife, Mom and human being! she has ALWAYS pointed the finger and blame at someone else!

Jolie Pitt doesnt want a threesome with her that is why she is pissed, she is an old stinky cow

even if it were true that Brad and Angie only give three million to charity, it's 3 million more than Roseanne ever gave! she is such a joke!

Roseann is a loon, but she hit the nail on the head with those 2 phonies.

"I am just a big idiot with a big mouth sometimes. I will learn to be more careful!" 2007 quote from Roseanne Barr

Rosie Bar shut the STFU up#
We know you have the same publicist as ANISTON.

HUVANE TRANNY AZZ!!

dum a s s nasty pig. she spit at the national anthem and grab hur di ck.

Roseann is a washed up, talentless, ex-whore (read her bio -- she admits she turned tricks when she was younger -- I assume for some really drunk, desperate guys).

Her 15 minutes of fame were over a LONG time ago. Sadly, every once in awhile she sticks her fat, ugly head out there and says something totally ridiculous to get a few more seconds of attention.

I don't care much for B&A, don't go see their movies, and wouldn't care less if they fell off the face of the earth. But they do do some good with their $$$, which is far more than you can say about most of the elitist Hollyweird crowd.

I wonder how much of Roseann's earning she has donated to charity lately. Oh wait, she would nave to have had some earnings to have donated any, which I seriously doubt she has had.

What a washed up skank!!!!!!

Roseanne Barr deserves more respect than ANYONE should EVER delegate to that phony, manufactured Angelina Voight. At the very least, Roseanne admitted she had a mental health issue and took steps to, not only rectify it but, ACKNOWLEDGED IT! Angelina Voight, WHO WAS LOCKED UP IN AN ASYLUM UNDER DURESS, has not only ignored her mental health issues, of which she has plenty, but brags about how she will not seek professional help and/or will not take drugs to control it (at least, the LEGAL kind). I find this HIGHLY irresponsible, especially as a MOTHER OF 6. The sole reason why Angelina Voight supports the Republican agenda; it supports her ability to adopt children from foreign nations where adoption laws are far more lax and less regulated. GOOD WORK, ROSEANNE IN EXPOSING THIS FARCICAL "COUPLE" AND THEIR CONTRIVED MOTIVES!!!!!

The skunk beast is tryin to take her words back- to dayum late obesese child negleator hore.

And How much has Rosanne given to charity? What's with this propoganda about the Republicans and Africa? How dumb you are Rosanne who's only mad because Jon Voight and Angelina are Republicans! Stick it in you're ear lady!

Overly large chalk board voice has no moula, does gives largely too drug dealers. She smoke dope with her kids when she got them back.

Rosie must have forgotten to take her hormone pill. Her and Rosie O need to hook up and have a pity party about things they can't control...ie I'm a washed up star. Get a life and stop slamming people....Rosie--I mean you were and are such a role model for today's youth...NOT.

roseanne did not graduate. horsedog is fukking ugly.

OWN JJS PLEASE = FAT OBESE BIG MOUTH TABITHA. CUSS DAT FAT REPUBISKUNK OUT. TABITHA SHUT THE FCKUP! ROSIE STFU, GIT YOUR KID TWO REHAB HOE, PUT DA JOINTS DOWN!

HAHHAHA U GO ROSEANNE. thats hilarious! see i like it when people has balls and come out and say what they want. BRANGELINA IS SOOOOOO OVERRATED!

I don't personally like some of Roseanne material. However,THANK YOU!!! I can't stand those two fakes. I really appreciate someone actually using their brians when talking about these fake couple.

They call her a nutcase, however, some of the most truthful things come from people that are crazy. Think about it, most of Angelina fans constantly talk about how honest she is and everyone knows Angelina is just as nutty as a fruitcake every since she stepped on the scene. I see no evidence of her changing any time soon. As a matter of fact, since she has taken up with Brad she has just been a walking circus act, this chick is certifiable and they call Roseanne crazy, child bye...........

George Clooney, Rosie O'Donnell, Ludacris, Sean Penn, Oprah Winfrey, kayne west....the list keeps getting bigger and now Roseanne wants to join the club of celebrities that irresponsibly infuence politics by taking advantage of the fact that fickle Americans will believe anything a celebrity says (even uneducated washed up celebrities, because they are gods afterall) instead of doing research for themselves!

This is the same woman that disgraced the American National Anthem about ten years ago by grabbing her crotch and shrilfully screaming the song.

Team Roseanne!!

I want my 5 minutes I spent here back!

Celebrities endorsing "celebrities" (No, not Ahhnald... you know whos the biggest celebrity in politics right now) is ironically always liberals and is the equivalent of the saying "babies having babies". Roseanne knows as much about politics as Jayme Lynne Spears knows about parenting.

YOU GO ROSEANNE. YOU CALL EM LIKE YOU SEE EM. AND ITS TRUE, BRAD AND JOLIE HAVE NO IDEA OF THE TRUE NATURE OF THE CAUSES THEY SUPPORT.

"Maybe she's looking for attention, maybe she's nuts, maybe she does drugs, maybe she's not a role model but at least she speakes her mind, and guess what...SHE'S RIGHT!!!! SHE SAID THE TRUTH!!!! Angelina Jolie is a bad, evil, manipulative woman and Brad Pitt is just a douchebag, if people say Katie Holmes is a robot, well, think again and SEE BRAD PITT!!! He really IS a robot, and all that is double morality, a few years back people (and media) were talking about how twisted Angelina was, about her crazy bad habits, sex in a parking lot, wearing blood around her neck, making out with his brother and a loooooooooooooot of stuff, she's not a good person, she just preteneds so people like her, and she's just using the babies for her own benefit, to look lika a good woman that WE ALL KNOW she's not, I hope someday soon people realize how big liars they are, OK, they give away millions of dollars to help 3rd world countries in Africa, first of all, why do they talk about it? why do they send to the media documentes about their "help" that's not doin' it just for charity or for havin' a big heart, is just about promotion, to get more and more money, they invest 3 mil, worldwide media talk about them, they're in the spotlight, producers want them to asure box office gold, so, those 3 mil easily become in 40 mil (at least) a year (each one of them) so, it sounds like a good investment to me... THANKS ROSEANNE BARR all that you said is true! I officialy love you now! = )
August 18, 2008 1:07 PM
Posted by: Dave "

thank you dave!
i agree with you in all.

thank you dave for your comment!

Rosanne rocks. It does make you think, her comments. She is correct.

Excellent point. She's one person who's not afraid to say the deep-rooted truth. Keep it up Roseanne!

She is absolutely right about how Angie and Brad "donate" the majority of money to themselves and very little to charity. They are NOT saints, and so what if she wants to rant about it. Somebody NEEDS to say it, they are extremely overrated and GREEDY. Its pretty damn obvious Angelina likes the attention if she has to announce how much money she is "supposedly" donating and to what charity.

to bring awareness to the flight of the refugees is one of the job description of a UNCHR Goodwill Ambassador if people can't understand why when Angelina visits refugee camps and other countries in conflict and then being reported by the UN itself and other media outlet are just a dumb haters.

People should be factual when saying that what they donate to charity is nothing or that they are fake.. show some factual data before posting crap about them. At least they are doing something to help other people when some of you fugs are just sitting behind your computer feeling like you know it all when in fact you are all a bunch of BIGOT FUGLY hags

Sorry but I think Roseanne is right.

Rosanne is trash..She gave up a baby for adoption..Accused her parents of sexual abuse which was never proven..Make a JOKE out of singing the National Anthem & grabbing her crotch & spitting...She is trying to get back into the spot light...Lasy year she was Praising the Jolie-Pitts..She is NUTS

ROSEANNE, YOU ARE SPOT ON!!!!!!

I find it very sad that 17-Online would stoop to this level and print this garbage from a has been. You are unusally a class act but this was a bad call on someone's part at X-Online

AND WHAT DOES ROSEANNE BARR DO TO THE HUMANITY?!

IF ANGELINA IS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE GOOD THEN WHY IS SHE CONSISTENT WITH HER CAUSE?

Angelina is "consistent with her cause"? What is "her cause" and how is she "consistent"?

couple who adopt,never speak ill of others,been doing humanitarian
VS
someone who rants on people that did nothing to her,and doesn't even probably know what she wants in life

Does she even have a friend? That fat lady?!!!bwahahaha

well brangelina is not a favorite but i think they're ok.

I love angelina.I met here when she visited our home.She's warm and loving.After meeting her i started to study real hard.She said it will be good for my future.She inspires me.God less her and her family.

I love angelina.I met here when she visited our home.She's warm and loving.After meeting her i started to study real hard.She said it will be good for my future.She inspires me.God bless her and her family.

ROSEANNE IS A CRAZY B THAT SHOULD NOT EVER SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANYBODY

Wish u read this AJ&BP..u r so FAKE...poor u....

roseanne has no fame anymore and is tring to get in the spot light also she mad because no one gave a damn when she had her little piggies not only that but who wouldnt get 14 million dollars for their kids pic please give me a break if u would say no ur either stupid or u have a lot of money and dont give a damn. also if they sell their kids pic is not like their selling their body is just stupid how some people likes to talk crap if i was in brad and angie position i would sell them too any ways is just as matter of time that the paparazzi will see the kids take a pic and sell them to all the magazines and make money off the kids. why not the parents i mean angelina did carry them in her belly at least she deserves some money if some one else is going to get some without her.

i dont agree with what roseanne said but brangelina is ridiculously overrated and brad pitt has no conscience and angelina is a homewrecker which is why i dont care that she said it

Poor Brad Pit!! he got sucked into her mess & there is no way out for him now, its her way or the highway.

And you Mrs. Roseanne, what do YOU fucking do for humanity????!!!

I have to say, I think Rosanne is like the majority of America! I can't speak for everyone else, but I'm sick of hearing about Angelina and Brad. I have nothing against them, I just don't care! I also loose respect for parents who sell pictures of their children. I don't care what charity it goes to, you child is not a money-making machine. And Barr is right, they have more then enough money that they've made themselves. Why not donate all that instead of selling your children for the highest dollar! What has America come to?

Poor Joan!! he loves her.

I think it's funny that we as a country have childern being beaten and raped placed in childern homes daily. And they go buy childern from other worlds and sell pics of them to increase their money. Think about it she is right ! We all have a past and say or do thigs we shouldn't. But are we not a free country that we can say it like it is and open our mouth. You go girl I loved your worked back when I was raising 4 kids with a full time job, it was my 30 min a day to just laught at what we all have to deal with and the truth about most familys in America.

oh she i8s a fonny bitch never see her hug her only biogial child she needsd some sun poor baby looks so sad and lost hope the twins get any attention and poor brad looks like a dog been whip jennifer was real person

bang bang bang. That was the most honest thing I have ever heard. Love you RoseAnne. I am so glad that someone has shared their true feelings about that cutter!!

I could never stand that women! Roseanne is a big fat dumb ass who has nothing better to do than to pick on those who she is clearly jelouse of!She could never do what they are doing b/c she is a has been! Angie and brad have done NOTHING but good and that women needs to grow up and shut up! It's people like her that makes me wonder where the hell our country is going! Picking on people who are doing nothing but good and trying to make things better. Roseanne needs to just go eat something to shut her up!!!!!!

So anyone who is commenting that Roseanne is correct in anything that she says is as stupid as she is. You people keep saying that Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie are hypocrites but when have they ever said they are better than anyone else. These people give millions of dollars to charities and spend a lot of time helping people. How is this bad? What's bad is putting these people down based on the words of someone like Rosanne Barr, get some sense! Perfect example of people putting others down for their own short comings.

and btw, americans suffer just like anyone else in the world, but there are other places in this world where the children have it so much worse. read the news once in a while and you will know why some people adopt from other countries.

THANK YOU. I hate Angelina Jolie, something about what she does seems fake, she's a walking contradiction and all those Brangelina fans are WARPED. Everyone is so caught up in the Angelina charity, they don't stop and look at the big picture. Angelina is a fucking idiot. I've always liked Roseanne. She's AMAZING. She speaks her mind and I commend her for that.

ROSEANNE IS A HYPOCRITE!! WHAT IN THE HELL HAS SHE EVER DONE FOR HUMANITY??? NOT A DAMN THING. HER ENTIRE LIFE HAS CONSISTED OF BITCHING ABOUT EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING. WOW, SHE'S SO ADMIRABLE. BRAD AND ANGIE HAVE NEVER PROCLAIMED TO BE SAINTS OR PERFECT. THEY HAVE NEVER PUT THEMSELVES ON ANY PEDESTAL. THEY ARE TWO PEOPLE LIVING THEIR LIVES, AND THEY ADOPT CHILDREN NOT TO PROJECT AN IMAGE TO THE WORLD, ROSEANNE AND ALL OF YOU WHO BELIEVE THAT ARE IDIOTS, THEY DO IT BECAUSE THEY FEEL IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. YES, THERE ARE KIDS IN OUR OWN COUNTRY WHO NEED TO BE ADOPTED AS WELL, BUT LET'S FACE IT, LIFE IS MUCH WORSE FOR THE KIDS IN PLACES LIKE AFRICA. IT'S A SMALL THING THEY'VE DONE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING. THEY'VE BROUGHT JOY AND LOVE TO CHILDREN WHO'S LIVES WERE AND WOULD HAVE CONTINUED TO BE HELL. IT IS SIMPLY ASTOUNDING THAT SOME OF YOU CRITICIZE THEM FOR SOMETHING SO WONDERFUL. IT SHOWS HOW LITTLE HUMANITY YOU AND ROSEANNE HAVE THAT YOU CHOOSE TO CRITICIZE PEOPLE FOR GIVING OF THEMSELVES TO GIVE LOVE AND LIFE TO CHILDREN.
AS FOR REPUBLICANS AND PLACES LIKE AFRICA, ROSEANNE AND SOME OF YOU OTHER FOOLS MIGHT CONSIDER DOING A LITTLE RESEARCH FIRST:
FROM THE L.A. TIMES: "U.S. aid to Africa has tripled under his watch. Trade has almost doubled. And his $30-billion initiative fight the global HIV/AIDS pandemic -- he signs this year's measure next Wednesday -- may stand as the largest international health initiative ever initiated by one nation to address a single disease."
FROM TOWNHALL.COM: "Mr. Geldof is an Irish rock and roll singer and longtime social activist who has helped, along with U2 rocker Bono, raise awareness about need in Africa. His most well known achievement is organizing the Live Aid concert in 1985, which raised money for debt relief for poor African countries.

But Mr. Geldof has remained closely engaged with African affairs since then, and he spoke off the cuff to reporters today who were waiting for a press conference with Mr. Bush and Rwandan President Paul Kagame.

Mr. Geldof praised Mr. Bush for his work in delivering billions to fight disease and poverty in Africa, and blasted the U.S. press for ignoring the achievement.

Mr. Bush, said Mr. Geldof, "has done more than any other president so far."

"This is the triumph of American policy really," he said. "It was probably unexpected of the man. It was expected of the nation, but not of the man, but both rose to the occasion."

"What's in it for [Mr. Bush]? Absolutely nothing," Mr. Geldof said.

SOME OF YOU REALLY SHOULD SPEND SOME TIME RESEARCHING THE THINGS YOU COMMMENT ON INSTEAD OF PARROTING THE VERBAL VOMIT OF FOOLS LIKE ROSEANNE, MICHAEL MOORE, ROSIE, ETC. IT'S FRIGHTENING HOW MANY OF YOU DO NOT REALLY HAVE ANY CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND YET YOU CAN VOTE. YOU REALLY SHOULD READ, AND DO A LOT OF RESEARCH ABOUT THE THINGS YOU CLAIM TO CARE ABOUT. I READ EVERYTHING TO EDUCATE MYSELF SO THAT I AM NOT A BRAINWASHED, MIND NUMBED ROBOT LIKE A LOT OF YOU.
FROM TOWNHALL.COM: "Mr. Geldof is an Irish rock and roll singer and longtime social activist who has helped, along with U2 rocker Bono, raise awareness about need in Africa. His most well known achievement is organizing the Live Aid concert in 1985, which raised money for debt relief for poor African countries.
But Mr. Geldof has remained closely engaged with African affairs since then, and he spoke off the cuff to reporters today who were waiting for a press conference with Mr. Bush and Rwandan President Paul Kagame.
Mr. Geldof praised Mr. Bush for his work in delivering billions to fight disease and poverty in Africa, and blasted the U.S. press for ignoring the achievement.
Mr. Bush, said Mr. Geldof, "has done more than any other president so far."
"This is the triumph of American policy really," he said. "It was probably unexpected of the man. It was expected of the nation, but not of the man, but both rose to the occasion."
"What's in it for [Mr. Bush]? Absolutely nothing," Mr. Geldof said.
FROM PHILLY.COM: Best president on AIDS? W!
By DAVID BENKOF

WHEN I became a gay activist in 1990, HIV/AIDS was one of the key priorities of the movement. Fighting AIDS was promoted as an important reason for gays and lesbians to help elect Bill Clinton in 1992.
Yet now that the gay white men who are the main funders of the LGBT movement are no longer dying quite so often of AIDS, the gay community has moved on to issues like marriage, while millions, many men of color who have sex with men, are still suffering from HIV-related illness.

It is unquestionable that GOP President George W. Bush has done more to fight AIDS than any president in history, including Democrat Bill Clinton. The people pushing Bush to fight the epidemic at home and abroad are overwhelmingly conservative Christians - the same people we keep hearing gay leaders tar as narrow-minded and bigoted.

Well, those bigots deserve far more credit for relieving suffering from HIV in this decade than gay men and lesbians did in the previous two decades combined.

Under George W. Bush:

* The U.S. spends more than $3 billion a year, with more to come, on the president's initiative to treat, prevent and care for millions of suffering people worldwide. Bush's AIDS plan is the largest health initiative ever dedicated to a single disease.

By contrast, Clinton's last budget contained less than a $1 billion for both domestic prevention and global AIDS. And Clinton's Justice Department actually sued people and governments worldwide for trying to produce generic anti-retrovirals.

* The White House is trying to repeal the heinous restriction on foreign visitors and immigrants with HIV, a policy the supposedly pro-gay Clinton administration signed into law. Because of Bush, we may finally have international AIDS conferences in our country again, which never happened under Bill Clinton.

* The president has not hesitated to appoint openly gay experts on the disease to top posts, including physician Mark R. Dybul to an ambassador-level HIV spot and both National AIDS Policy Coordinator Scott Evertz and his successor, Joseph O'Neill.

By contrast, President Clinton had no openly gay AIDS czars.

Bush's AIDS appointments aren't about winning gay votes any more than his appointment of two African-American secretaries of state was calculated to win black votes. He wants the most qualified people doing important jobs, whatever their identities.

These facts and others relating to the outstanding Bush record on AIDS have done little to convince gays and lesbians that on at least one of their top issues, Republicans have performed better than Democrats. When challenged, most gay activists will point to Bush's championing of abstinence education, as if it were a bad idea.

It's undeniable that abstinence is a more effective way of preventing sexually transmitted diseases and pregnancy than condoms. I know a gay man who was sexually active for more than a decade. He used a condom every time, yet contracted several STDs. Later, in seven years of abstaining from sex, he didn't suffer a single crab louse, herpes sore or genital wart.

I imagine an argument can be made for teaching proper condom use to older high-schoolers. But opponents of abstinence education advocate starting condom instruction for junior-high students or younger. Why? By definition, the overwhelming majority of sixth- through 10-graders are beneath the age of consent.

In my eyes, "marriage equality" is a far less important than the fight against HIV/AIDS. Virtually the entire gay community felt that way when I first became an activist. After all, what lesbian ever died a painful death because the government called her relationship a domestic partnership instead of a marriage?

For years, I've been asked, "How can you be a gay Republican?" In 2008, I can answer, "Because on one of the gay community's top priorities, Republicans outshine Democrats hands down."*

A STATEMENT FROM BONO: “President Bush has every reason to be proud of what he and so many others have accomplished in Africa. From AIDS treatment once thought impossible, to millions of bednets to keep kids from dying of a mosquito bite, to new African jobs created with trade policy, to billions in old debts erased. And back in Washington, a political shift has taken place with Democrats and Republicans working shoulder to shoulder to partner with the people of Africa as they work to lift their continent out of poverty, putting 29 million children in school in the last five years, with the help of debt cancellation. These are accomplishments the next President must build on. It’s true that American generosity is on the rise, but it’s also true that despite recent set backs in Kenya, there’s a new Africa to match it. I hope that the next President, whoever that is, will get to experience first hand this beautiful and entrepreneurial continent that is rising to all of the challenges being sent its way.

FROM THE GUARDIAN:George Bush: a good man in AfricaAs he starts a five-nation tour, the US president is an unlikely hero to the poor of a continent ravaged by AidsChris McGreal in Kigali The Guardian, Friday February 15 2008 Article historyThey may not be George Bush's natural constituency but Rwanda's prostitutes have good things to say about him. So do poor South Africans abandoned by their quixotic government, and doctors across Africa who otherwise regard the American president as a walking crime against humanity.

As Bush arrives in Africa today at the start of a five-country tour he will be welcomed chiefly for an initiative which has gone largely unnoticed outside the continent but which has saved the lives of more than a million people with HIV.

The $15bn (£7.6bn) President's Emergency Plan for Aids Relief (Pepfar) is in its fifth year and has been hailed as a "revolution" that is transforming healthcare in Africa and has been praised as the most significant aid programme since the end of colonialism.

Bill Clinton's legacy in Africa was the debacle of Somalia and the abandonment of Rwanda's Tutsis to the 1994 genocide. But with Pepfar, Bush's primary contribution will be greatly extending millions of lives even though the programme has been criticised for emphasising abstinence in Aids education and using religious organisations to deliver care.

"This is the best thing that ever happened to the poor people I work with," said Edward Phillips, a Catholic priest overseeing the distribution of life-saving antiretroviral drugs (ARVs) in Nairobi, Kenya. "It's one of the few times I've seen US government money really reach down to the poorest of the poor. It's kept a hell of a lot of people alive."

Dr Francois Venter, head of the HIV Clinicians Society in South Africa, where Pepfar is providing 200,000 people with ARVs, is one of a number of Aids doctors almost disbelieving in praise of Bush. "I look at all the blood this man has on his hands in Iraq and I can't quite believe myself but I would say it's a bold experiment from the last people in the world I would expect to do it, and it is saving a lot of lives. To intervene on such a scale and make such a difference is huge," he said.

Pepfar was launched in 2004 with the ultimate goal of providing treatment and care to 19 million people with HIV, mainly in Africa and the Caribbean. It is already supplying ARVs to about 1.4 million people and that number is likely to rise significantly if, as expected, Congress doubles Pepfar's budget later this year.

Those at the coalface of confronting Aids say that while other organisations, such as the Global Fund to fight Aids and the World Bank also fund ARVs, the US programme owes its success to combining large amounts of money to fund drugs with broadening assistance beyond the individual with HIV. Pepfar is supplying medical equipment and training large numbers of healthcare staff. It is also reaching into households hit by Aids with programmes to put children through school and help those with HIV to carry on working.

Bush confronted the pandemic under pressure from his then secretary of state, Colin Powell, who warned that Aids threatened to wipe out a large part of the working-age population of some African countries. He saw that as a national security issue. So did the CIA. Bush was also lobbied by American Christian evangelicals with strong and expanding ties to Africa, and conservative Republican senators usually instinctively hostile to foreign aid.

In Rwanda - on Bush's tour and one of Pepfar's 15 priority countries - Dr Agnes Binagwaho, the head of the national Aids council, says the US programme is the major contributor to a tenfold increase over the past four years in the numbers of Rwandans on ARVs to nearly 50,000 people. Today about 70% of Rwandans who need the drugs receive them. "The impact is huge. The average life expectancy of Rwandans has improved by four years because of Pepfar," she said. "The impact is also really big in the health sector because of the equipment and training. It is putting children through school."

An American group, CHF International, is using Pepfar money to pay for 39,000 children to go to school in Rwanda in part because Aids orphans and other young people left without support are more likely to fall back on casual prostitution to survive.

Anne Smith, the head of CHF in Kigali - who says she is personally keen on a change in the White House - says the unprecedented amount of money provided by Pepfar has changed how Rwanda deals with Aids.

"The scale of the money coming in has really changed everything. If someone in a household has HIV it used to be we only focused on them. Now we look at the health of everyone in the household because if a parent has HIV that has implications for their ability to provide and care for their children. We can now treat the children for other diseases because that is a consequence of HIV in the household," she said.

But Pepfar has come in for strong criticism because its Aids education programme, ABC - Abstinence, Be faithful, Condomise - pushes the first two over the third.

Democrats in Congress want to scrap the emphasis on abstinence when Pepfar legislation comes up for renewal later this year. Many Aids workers in Africa think the Bush administration's obsession with the issue is misplaced but say its impact is minimal because government programmes in most countries emphasise the use of condoms.

Democrats have also criticised the large numbers of "faith-based" organisations funded by Pepfar, such as Phillips' Eastern Deanery Aids Relief Programme, which distributes ARVs to 7,000 people in the poorest parts of Nairobi. Its $3.3m slice of Pepfar's $386m budget in Kenya last year has funded expansion from a few dozen staff and church volunteers to a network of 11 clinics and 300 staff including nurses, social workers, clinicians and nutritionists.

Phillips says that, in accordance with church policy, his programme does not distribute condoms - but neither does it teach against the Kenyan government's emphasis on condoms. "The prevalence of Aids has dropped significantly in Kenya. It's down to the various education campaigns by the government, by communities and that people saw that people were dying. You can draw your own conclusions," said Phillips.

John Dunlop, who heads the Pepfar health team in Rwanda, said the relationship with religious organisations had less to do with evangelicals in Washington than with practicalities in Africa. "These are very pious communities; the church runs through every component of life. So if you ignore these church networks as a means of pushing out messages of change you're ignoring a huge resource," he said.

Pepfar's budget in Kenya rises to $535m this year. It already pays for 90,000 people to receive ARVs - nearly half of all those taking them in the country - as well as home care for those with HIV, including food and microfinance so they can still make a living.

Warren Buckingham, the head of the Pepfar programme in Nairobi, said he found himself pressing the Kenyan government on behalf of the very people the American Christian right most despised. "If there is resistance it is not in Washington. The people we have to push are the public health officials here to recognise neglected populations and highly stigmatised groups - men who have sex with men, intravenous drug users, sex workers," he said.

In a busy Kigali bar, Linda, a 24-year-old HIV-positive prostitute, explained that she had been afraid to be tested because she didn't want to know that she might soon die. "Then they said they could make us well, they have these drugs. So I got tested and I have the drugs," she said.

So whom does she thank? "The Americans. George Bush has helped us live."

"This is the best thing that ever happened to the poor people I work with," said Edward Phillips, a Catholic priest overseeing the distribution of life-saving antiretroviral drugs (ARVs) in Nairobi, Kenya. "It's one of the few times I've seen US government money really reach down to the poorest of the poor. It's kept a hell of a lot of people alive."

Dr Francois Venter, head of the HIV Clinicians Society in South Africa, where Pepfar is providing 200,000 people with ARVs, is one of a number of Aids doctors almost disbelieving in praise of Bush. "I look at all the blood this man has on his hands in Iraq and I can't quite believe myself but I would say it's a bold experiment from the last people in the world I would expect to do it, and it is saving a lot of lives. To intervene on such a scale and make such a difference is huge," he said.

Pepfar was launched in 2004 with the ultimate goal of providing treatment and care to 19 million people with HIV, mainly in Africa and the Caribbean. It is already supplying ARVs to about 1.4 million people and that number is likely to rise significantly if, as expected, Congress doubles Pepfar's budget later this year.

Those at the coalface of confronting Aids say that while other organisations, such as the Global Fund to fight Aids and the World Bank also fund ARVs, the US programme owes its success to combining large amounts of money to fund drugs with broadening assistance beyond the individual with HIV. Pepfar is supplying medical equipment and training large numbers of healthcare staff. It is also reaching into households hit by Aids with programmes to put children through school and help those with HIV to carry on working.

Bush confronted the pandemic under pressure from his then secretary of state, Colin Powell, who warned that Aids threatened to wipe out a large part of the working-age population of some African countries. He saw that as a national security issue. So did the CIA. Bush was also lobbied by American Christian evangelicals with strong and expanding ties to Africa, and conservative Republican senators usually instinctively hostile to foreign aid.

In Rwanda - on Bush's tour and one of Pepfar's 15 priority countries - Dr Agnes Binagwaho, the head of the national Aids council, says the US programme is the major contributor to a tenfold increase over the past four years in the numbers of Rwandans on ARVs to nearly 50,000 people. Today about 70% of Rwandans who need the drugs receive them. "The impact is huge. The average life expectancy of Rwandans has improved by four years because of Pepfar," she said. "The impact is also really big in the health sector because of the equipment and training. It is putting children through school."

An American group, CHF International, is using Pepfar money to pay for 39,000 children to go to school in Rwanda in part because Aids orphans and other young people left without support are more likely to fall back on casual prostitution to survive.

Anne Smith, the head of CHF in Kigali - who says she is personally keen on a change in the White House - says the unprecedented amount of money provided by Pepfar has changed how Rwanda deals with Aids.

"The scale of the money coming in has really changed everything. If someone in a household has HIV it used to be we only focused on them. Now we look at the health of everyone in the household because if a parent has HIV that has implications for their ability to provide and care for their children. We can now treat the children for other diseases because that is a consequence of HIV in the household," she said.

But Pepfar has come in for strong criticism because its Aids education programme, ABC - Abstinence, Be faithful, Condomise - pushes the first two over the third.

Democrats in Congress want to scrap the emphasis on abstinence when Pepfar legislation comes up for renewal later this year. Many Aids workers in Africa think the Bush administration's obsession with the issue is misplaced but say its impact is minimal because government programmes in most countries emphasise the use of condoms.

Democrats have also criticised the large numbers of "faith-based" organisations funded by Pepfar, such as Phillips' Eastern Deanery Aids Relief Programme, which distributes ARVs to 7,000 people in the poorest parts of Nairobi. Its $3.3m slice of Pepfar's $386m budget in Kenya last year has funded expansion from a few dozen staff and church volunteers to a network of 11 clinics and 300 staff including nurses, social workers, clinicians and nutritionists.

Phillips says that, in accordance with church policy, his programme does not distribute condoms - but neither does it teach against the Kenyan government's emphasis on condoms. "The prevalence of Aids has dropped significantly in Kenya. It's down to the various education campaigns by the government, by communities and that people saw that people were dying. You can draw your own conclusions," said Phillips.

John Dunlop, who heads the Pepfar health team in Rwanda, said the relationship with religious organisations had less to do with evangelicals in Washington than with practicalities in Africa. "These are very pious communities; the church runs through every component of life. So if you ignore these church networks as a means of pushing out messages of change you're ignoring a huge resource," he said.

Pepfar's budget in Kenya rises to $535m this year. It already pays for 90,000 people to receive ARVs - nearly half of all those taking them in the country - as well as home care for those with HIV, including food and microfinance so they can still make a living.

Warren Buckingham, the head of the Pepfar programme in Nairobi, said he found himself pressing the Kenyan government on behalf of the very people the American Christian right most despised. "If there is resistance it is not in Washington. The people we have to push are the public health officials here to recognise neglected populations and highly stigmatised groups - men who have sex with men, intravenous drug users, sex workers," he said.

In a busy Kigali bar, Linda, a 24-year-old HIV-positive prostitute, explained that she had been afraid to be tested because she didn't want to know that she might soon die. "Then they said they could make us well, they have these drugs. So I got tested and I have the drugs," she said.

So whom does she thank? "The Americans. George Bush has helped us live."

Pepfar is supplying medical equipment and training large numbers of healthcare staff. It is also reaching into households hit by Aids with programmes to put children through school and help those with HIV to carry on working.

Bush confronted the pandemic under pressure from his then secretary of state, Colin Powell, who warned that Aids threatened to wipe out a large part of the working-age population of some African countries. He saw that as a national security issue. So did the CIA. Bush was also lobbied by American Christian evangelicals with strong and expanding ties to Africa, and conservative Republican senators usually instinctively hostile to foreign aid.

In Rwanda - on Bush's tour and one of Pepfar's 15 priority countries - Dr Agnes Binagwaho, the head of the national Aids council, says the US programme is the major contributor to a tenfold increase over the past four years in the numbers of Rwandans on ARVs to nearly 50,000 people. Today about 70% of Rwandans who need the drugs receive them. "The impact is huge. The average life expectancy of Rwandans has improved by four years because of Pepfar," she said. "The impact is also really big in the health sector because of the equipment and training. It is putting children through school."

An American group, CHF International, is using Pepfar money to pay for 39,000 children to go to school in Rwanda in part because Aids orphans and other young people left without support are more likely to fall back on casual prostitution to survive.

Anne Smith, the head of CHF in Kigali - who says she is personally keen on a change in the White House - says the unprecedented amount of money provided by Pepfar has changed how Rwanda deals with Aids.

"The scale of the money coming in has really changed everything. If someone in a household has HIV it used to be we only focused on them. Now we look at the health of everyone in the household because if a parent has HIV that has implications for their ability to provide and care for their children. We can now treat the children for other diseases because that is a consequence of HIV in the household," she said.

But Pepfar has come in for strong criticism because its Aids education programme, ABC - Abstinence, Be faithful, Condomise - pushes the first two over the third.

Democrats in Congress want to scrap the emphasis on abstinence when Pepfar legislation comes up for renewal later this year. Many Aids workers in Africa think the Bush administration's obsession with the issue is misplaced but say its impact is minimal because government programmes in most countries emphasise the use of condoms.

Democrats have also criticised the large numbers of "faith-based" organisations funded by Pepfar, such as Phillips' Eastern Deanery Aids Relief Programme, which distributes ARVs to 7,000 people in the poorest parts of Nairobi. Its $3.3m slice of Pepfar's $386m budget in Kenya last year has funded expansion from a few dozen staff and church volunteers to a network of 11 clinics and 300 staff including nurses, social workers, clinicians and nutritionists.

Phillips says that, in accordance with church policy, his programme does not distribute condoms - but neither does it teach against the Kenyan government's emphasis on condoms. "The prevalence of Aids has dropped significantly in Kenya. It's down to the various education campaigns by the government, by communities and that people saw that people were dying. You can draw your own conclusions," said Phillips.

John Dunlop, who heads the Pepfar health team in Rwanda, said the relationship with religious organisations had less to do with evangelicals in Washington than with practicalities in Africa. "These are very pious communities; the church runs through every component of life. So if you ignore these church networks as a means of pushing out messages of change you're ignoring a huge resource," he said.

Pepfar's budget in Kenya rises to $535m this year. It already pays for 90,000 people to receive ARVs - nearly half of all those taking them in the country - as well as home care for those with HIV, including food and microfinance so they can still make a living.

Warren Buckingham, the head of the Pepfar programme in Nairobi, said he found himself pressing the Kenyan government on behalf of the very people the American Christian right most despised. "If there is resistance it is not in Washington. The people we have to push are the public health officials here to recognise neglected populations and highly stigmatised groups - men who have sex with men, intravenous drug users, sex workers," he said.

In a busy Kigali bar, Linda, a 24-year-old HIV-positive prostitute, explained that she had been afraid to be tested because she didn't want to know that she might soon die. "Then they said they could make us well, they have these drugs. So I got tested and I have the drugs," she said.

So whom does she thank? "The Americans. George Bush has helped us live."

more likely to fall back on casual prostitution to survive.

Anne Smith, the head of CHF in Kigali - who says she is personally keen on a change in the White House - says the unprecedented amount of money provided by Pepfar has changed how Rwanda deals with Aids.

"The scale of the money coming in has really changed everything. If someone in a household has HIV it used to be we only focused on them. Now we look at the health of everyone in the household because if a parent has HIV that has implications for their ability to provide and care for their children. We can now treat the children for other diseases because that is a consequence of HIV in the household," she said.

But Pepfar has come in for strong criticism because its Aids education programme, ABC - Abstinence, Be faithful, Condomise - pushes the first two over the third.

Democrats in Congress want to scrap the emphasis on abstinence when Pepfar legislation comes up for renewal later this year. Many Aids workers in Africa think the Bush administration's obsession with the issue is misplaced but say its impact is minimal because government programmes in most countries emphasise the use of condoms.

Democrats have also criticised the large numbers of "faith-based" organisations funded by Pepfar, such as Phillips' Eastern Deanery Aids Relief Programme, which distributes ARVs to 7,000 people in the poorest parts of Nairobi. Its $3.3m slice of Pepfar's $386m budget in Kenya last year has funded expansion from a few dozen staff and church volunteers to a network of 11 clinics and 300 staff including nurses, social workers, clinicians and nutritionists.

Phillips says that, in accordance with church policy, his programme does not distribute condoms - but neither does it teach against the Kenyan government's emphasis on condoms. "The prevalence of Aids has dropped significantly in Kenya. It's down to the various education campaigns by the government, by communities and that people saw that people were dying. You can draw your own conclusions," said Phillips.

John Dunlop, who heads the Pepfar health team in Rwanda, said the relationship with religious organisations had less to do with evangelicals in Washington than with practicalities in Africa. "These are very pious communities; the church runs through every component of life. So if you ignore these church networks as a means of pushing out messages of change you're ignoring a huge resource," he said.

Pepfar's budget in Kenya rises to $535m this year. It already pays for 90,000 people to receive ARVs - nearly half of all those taking them in the country - as well as home care for those with HIV, including food and microfinance so they can still make a living.

Warren Buckingham, the head of the Pepfar programme in Nairobi, said he found himself pressing the Kenyan government on behalf of the very people the American Christian right most despised. "If there is resistance it is not in Washington. The people we have to push are the public health officials here to recognise neglected populations and highly stigmatised groups - men who have sex with men, intravenous drug users, sex workers," he said.

In a busy Kigali bar, Linda, a 24-year-old HIV-positive prostitute, explained that she had been afraid to be tested because she didn't want to know that she might soon die. "Then they said they could make us well, they have these drugs. So I got tested and I have the drugs," she said.

So whom does she thank? "The Americans. George Bush has helped us live."

funded by Pepfar, such as Phillips' Eastern Deanery Aids Relief Programme, which distributes ARVs to 7,000 people in the poorest parts of Nairobi. Its $3.3m slice of Pepfar's $386m budget in Kenya last year has funded expansion from a few dozen staff and church volunteers to a network of 11 clinics and 300 staff including nurses, social workers, clinicians and nutritionists.

Phillips says that, in accordance with church policy, his programme does not distribute condoms - but neither does it teach against the Kenyan government's emphasis on condoms. "The prevalence of Aids has dropped significantly in Kenya. It's down to the various education campaigns by the government, by communities and that people saw that people were dying. You can draw your own conclusions," said Phillips.

John Dunlop, who heads the Pepfar health team in Rwanda, said the relationship with religious organisations had less to do with evangelicals in Washington than with practicalities in Africa. "These are very pious communities; the church runs through every component of life. So if you ignore these church networks as a means of pushing out messages of change you're ignoring a huge resource," he said.

Pepfar's budget in Kenya rises to $535m this year. It already pays for 90,000 people to receive ARVs - nearly half of all those taking them in the country - as well as home care for those with HIV, including food and microfinance so they can still make a living.

Warren Buckingham, the head of the Pepfar programme in Nairobi, said he found himself pressing the Kenyan government on behalf of the very people the American Christian right most despised. "If there is resistance it is not in Washington. The people we have to push are the public health officials here to recognise neglected populations and highly stigmatised groups - men who have sex with men, intravenous drug users, sex workers," he said.

In a busy Kigali bar, Linda, a 24-year-old HIV-positive prostitute, explained that she had been afraid to be tested because she didn't want to know that she might soon die. "Then they said they could make us well, they have these drugs. So I got tested and I have the drugs," she said.

So whom does she thank? "The Americans. George Bush has helped us live."